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From: David Stockhoff Apparently there was no sapient life on Green before the Neighbours developed space technology and went there. Inhumi were just like animals, and even if t…
25 Nov 2011, 13:47
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From: Lee Berman Even if that’s correct, what difference does it make? It does suggest, I suppose, that humans on Blue have less to worry about than they might have thought, giv…
24 Nov 2011, 17:33
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From: Larry Miller Ah yes — I have read it now. Interesting that Silk no longer mentions Oreb, probably writing him off as appearing only in his imagination. Instead he thinks …
24 Nov 2011, 12:49
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From: Lee Berman Wolfe plays fast and loose with the laws of physics when it suits the story. Maybe inhumi can generate a hard shell for themselves while flying. An intitial sp…
24 Nov 2011, 12:37
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From: Marc Aramini Yes. As I understand it, if that happens they will then prey on unintelligent animals and regress to a similar state themselves, like they were on Green befor…
24 Nov 2011, 12:17
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From: Andrew Mason Yes, but maybe the ghost is not Pike but some other character in some other book. Pike does indeed seem like the best candidate, though. I don't recall Silk'…
23 Nov 2011, 23:36
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From: David Stockhoff But don’t the Neighbours say they only discovered the inhumi after they went to Green? - Gerry Quinn…
23 Nov 2011, 22:23
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From: David Stockhoff I read it as inhumi seeing in the infrared or microwave spectrum. Infrared vision would fit with an evolutionary ancestry of snake-like predators on warm-b…
23 Nov 2011, 22:06
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From: James Wynn From: James Wynn “Not emphatic” as in “not stated at all”. - Gerry Quinn…
23 Nov 2011, 21:51
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From: Lee Berman Empty space has no temperature. (Typically the interplanetary gases are very hot in fact, but so dilute their temperature is irrelevant.) How hot or cold an obj…
23 Nov 2011, 21:48
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From: James Wynn Are you sure? I can’t find the reference. - Gerry Quinn…
23 Nov 2011, 19:58
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From: James Wynn But then why were they such a threat to the Neighbours? - Gerry Quinn…
23 Nov 2011, 19:48
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From: James Wynn There is no precedence for Mucor possessing and animal to travel to a location and then "chaining" into an astral appearance. Given her apparent powers, I…
23 Nov 2011, 19:45
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From: James Wynn There is no precedence for Mucor possessing and animal to travel to a location and then "chaining" into an astral appearance. Given her apparent powers, I can'…
23 Nov 2011, 19:31
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From: Lee Berman He’s a godling, and presumably was constructed at/by Mainframe. I guess he knew from birth. - Gerry Quinn…
23 Nov 2011, 18:42
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From: Lee Berman Is it conjunction yet? It can’t be far away. - Gerry Quinn…
23 Nov 2011, 18:14
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From: Lee Berman If Marc proposes a spiritual, non-biological connection, I’m perfectly willing to discuss that. But that’s not what he’s been proposing so far. For that matter…
23 Nov 2011, 18:08
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From: James Wynn If Silk slit his wrists a long time previously, did Mucor time travel? Or see SilkHorn stumbling around Viron? If it was long enough ago he might have been…
23 Nov 2011, 17:55
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Return to the Whorl From: James Wynn Hound appears surprised, but he’s a shopkeeper and not religious. Horn doesn’t seem all that shocked. - Gerry Quinn…
23 Nov 2011, 17:50
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From: James Wynn On 11/23/2011 9:50 AM, Nobody said anything about “boiling down”. But it would be a facet of what happened, worthy of thinking about, no? Fortunately we have …
23 Nov 2011, 16:18
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From: James Wynn Roy Lackey: So either way Mucor was lying when she said she spoke to Silk. In either case, why didn’t she just tell Horn that Silk was dead? Of course what Mu…
23 Nov 2011, 15:50
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From: Dan'l Danehy-Oakes Maybe I’ll feel the same when I complete my re-read. Right now I don’t see anything but metaphor — lianas prey on trees as inhumi prey on people and Nei…
23 Nov 2011, 15:41
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From: David Stockhoff Marc has repeatedly asserted that a staff made from a liana on Blue is an inhumu, and that lianas on Green are also inhumi. And things that are even less b…
23 Nov 2011, 15:35
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From: David Stockhoff She tells us she has that ability? I remember her telling us that Horn was dead, and apparently being wrong. I don’t remember her saying she has the abili…
23 Nov 2011, 15:30
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From: David Stockhoff I see. Are you saying that there is an interpretation in which he did not give the key to his house to a vampiric alien, explaining when and how best to us…
23 Nov 2011, 15:15
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From: David Stockhoff A spiritless corpse that can open and close its eyes and remember stuff that happened around it, and next day can sit up and “come back to itself”. I woul…
23 Nov 2011, 15:09
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From: Andrew Mason I think this is reasonably likely. In its favour is the fact that the ghost was wearing Pike’s hat, which Silk had worn earlier that day in his expedition to …
23 Nov 2011, 14:57
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From: Lee Berman Pathethic. Actually I’ve supported the view that there is a strong religious thread running through Wolfe’s entire canon, and nowhere (in long works) is it stro…
22 Nov 2011, 13:54
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From: Ant?nio Pedro Marques This reminds me of another problem with the “Neighbour replaced Horn in the pit theory”. Wolfe sets up a little mystery about the identity of |Silk a…
22 Nov 2011, 13:44
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From: Marc Aramini A little joke, and not directed just as you. There would have to be a spot on the paper that if you looked closely seemed like a left-handed can-opener. That…
22 Nov 2011, 13:34
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From: David Stockhoff Remember what I said about silly sarcasm? That’s an example. Tell me how you know she has that ability. You’re making yourself look silly now. It’s one …
22 Nov 2011, 13:29
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From: James Wynn From: James Wynn No, he didn’t need to do that. Or he thought he didn’t. I think he was three full days in the pit. If you want to see that as further sup…
22 Nov 2011, 13:22
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From: David Stockhoff I don’t think he acquired Neighbour-like powers just from being knocked out. But that’s beside the point. Horn had to be alone for days to be in such a st…
22 Nov 2011, 13:10
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From: Sergei SOLOVIEV I think in some cases individuals who like to put forward theories with not too strong a basis, and which are very vulnerable to challenge based on a carefu…
22 Nov 2011, 13:02
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From: Marc Aramini I don’t think such a mapping is intended to be suggested at all. For a start, Lune is a satellite of Urth, not a full-sized planet. The stories may make mo…
21 Nov 2011, 23:26
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From: David Stockhoff She knows they don’t move if you stick a fork in them. I don’t know how you deduce she knows much more than that. She didn’t get close enough to Horn to t…
21 Nov 2011, 23:15
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From: James Wynn To explain why she abandoned Horn in the pit? He’d have to be separated for days, to be in such a state that he betrayed his wife and children to the inhumu to …
21 Nov 2011, 23:00
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From: David Duffy I suppose that might be so if they observed thefirst conversation between Krait and Horn. I don’t think they’d have asked a random inhumu to help, though. - Ger…
21 Nov 2011, 22:47
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From: David Stockhoff I know it because we are told it in the text. I haven't reached IGJ in my re-read yet, but I remember the sewer. I don't think that was one of the comment…
21 Nov 2011, 21:01
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From: David Stockhoff I posted it today in a reply to James. I think I had it in a couple of posts. Here it is again anyway: Horn fell in and was badly concussed. [As with Auk…
21 Nov 2011, 19:53
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From: James Wynn Just a default assumption, given the general run of things. You can certainly posit otherwise. This young, guilt-ridden Neighbour of yours starts to look like …
21 Nov 2011, 19:31
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From: James Wynn *************************** She stared at me then as if I were some horror from the grave, and screamed. I can never forget that scream. And I lay in the pit, a…
21 Nov 2011, 19:28
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From: David Stockhoff I saw nothing but gnomic questions and inane sarcasm. They are problems unless the “rescue Horn” mission proposed by James is scripted by the Marx Bothers.…
21 Nov 2011, 19:12
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From: James Wynn On 11/21/2011 12:13 PM, Gerry Quinn wrote: Well, then it is up to you to present an explanation of the long-nosed man, because as I said — and you seem to be…
21 Nov 2011, 19:04
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From: David Stockhoff He *is* an obvious problem. James previously argued that he was a Neighbour who replaced Horn, and that fits okay with his theory. But if it can’t be that…
21 Nov 2011, 18:42
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From: James Wynn Well, then it is up to you to present an explanation of the long-nosed man, because as I said — and you seem to be tacitly conceding — a ?late? appearance by him…
21 Nov 2011, 18:13
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From: David Stockhoff I don’t really know what. He told her the most salient facts regarding his condition, i.e. that he was stuck in a pit *literally* dying of thirst. When he …
21 Nov 2011, 17:57
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From: Marc Aramini Maybe they are characteristic of a large group of species on Blue, just as mammals have certain characteristics in common on Earth? - Gerry Quinn…
21 Nov 2011, 17:54
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From: James Wynn These two sentences do not hang well together. - Gerry Quinn…
21 Nov 2011, 17:50
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From: James Wynn Last night I stopped writing because I could not bring myself to describe the rest of that day, or the night that followed it, or the day that followed that, t…
21 Nov 2011, 17:31
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