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From: Ant?nio Pedro Marques It’s probably best for one’s own enjoyment to avoid reading too much about a book before one’s own first read. Although it depends, perhaps, on wheth…
08 Nov 2011, 12:55
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From: Marc Aramini It *does* sound like a ship, even though a metal structure with ribs and sideplates is hardly definitive of one. However, it may very well have been one of th…
08 Nov 2011, 12:50
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From: Nick Lee Incorrect. It means what readers who have properly read it think it means. What absurdity is this? Much later we are shown a character in a play who breaks his …
07 Nov 2011, 18:59
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From: Lee Berman That’s because you don’t pay attention to the text. His mode of time travel is to walk or run through the Corridors of Time. The shackle binds him in time no l…
07 Nov 2011, 17:17
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From: Marc Aramini I don’t know where you get the idea about “my preferred method of definitive narrational statement”. I’ve repeatedly pointed out that Wolfe’s characters — jus…
07 Nov 2011, 16:58
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Surely Severian is clearly indicating that it is NOT Lune? It looks like it, but it’s a different colour. (I don’t think it’s a moon at all.) But hardly ?the most brillia…
07 Nov 2011, 16:07
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From: Jeff Wilson Restored for context: [Nick Lee wrote:] [Jeff Wilson wrote:] Indeed. As for the Green Man, if he has shape changing abilities they are fairly limited, as rea…
07 Nov 2011, 13:24
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From: Jeff Wilson On 11/6/2011 5:01 PM, Nick Lee wrote: Restored for context: [Nick Lee wrote:] [Jeff Wilson wrote:] Indeed. As for the Green Man, if he has shape changing a…
07 Nov 2011, 13:23
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From: Marc Aramini Surely Severian is clearly indicating that it is NOT Lune? It looks like it, but it’s a different colour. (I don’t think it’s a moon at all.) - Gerry Quinn…
07 Nov 2011, 13:04
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From: Nick Lee Maybe not. Since “Liber” is Latin for book, you have proved that Dionysus is in every book ever written! (Depending on your standard of proof, of course...) - G…
06 Nov 2011, 22:57
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From: Ant?nio Pedro Marques No dia 05/11/2011, ?s 23:40, Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com> escreveu: LOL... but I never thought of that — could Wolfe have been making that…
06 Nov 2011, 01:16
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From: Jerry Friedman Their hair is a different colour, but I don’t recall we are told anything more. I never really thought about it much. Typhon ruled an empire, and although …
06 Nov 2011, 00:43
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From: Lee Berman They always have been. I try to apply the correct tools for a given task. In both cases the purpose I attempt to serve is understanding and correctly interpre…
06 Nov 2011, 00:27
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From: James Wynn Okay. Then, I am going to apply Gerry's literary criticism method to a hypothetical book. For a book such as you describe, it would be counterproductive — and I…
05 Nov 2011, 19:55
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From: Marc Aramini Earlier you quoted: “we on Blue must come together in brotherhood before our own whorl becomes what Green already is”. Green can be Urth in metaphor, but not …
05 Nov 2011, 16:06
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From: David Stockhoff Check the Urth archives. - Gerry Quinn…
05 Nov 2011, 15:42
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Sure, there were such reasons. The explanation of Silent Silk and Silver Silk has multiple reasons too — alliteration as well as meaning in terms of the story about Silk as well a…
05 Nov 2011, 14:30
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From: David Stockhoff That doesn’t mean he sets cryptic crossword puzzles using this knowledge. I think he chooses names that he feels are appropriate, but they do *not* indicat…
05 Nov 2011, 13:01
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From: Ant?nio Pedro Marques I’d have guessed 55 or 60 (with Piaton being 20-30). Not really “old” as such, but getting on a bit. - Gerry Quinn…
05 Nov 2011, 02:25
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This was ?90s SF. I think a lot of screen types are available. I do picture the Sacred Windows as big old CRTs, though. I think largely because the very bulk of them would be imp…
05 Nov 2011, 02:23
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From: James Wynn Here’s the difference between what I’m doing and “cryptic word-smithing”: First point: the deliberately stated contrast with Tartaros. In both the Tartaros…
05 Nov 2011, 02:16
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From: Lee Berman The significance of Silver is obvious, surely? The full quote is: **************************************************** But Tartaros generally turns them black a…
04 Nov 2011, 18:01
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From: Lee Berman Right. Some woodland god who shares one syllable and no etymology with the English word silver, and has at best a tenuous connection with Dionysus. Of course t…
04 Nov 2011, 15:38
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From: Andrew Mason I think so. There’s another very interesting use of “aspect”, though: ******************************************************* “Is it known that all the gods a…
04 Nov 2011, 11:39
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From: Andrew Mason It is difficult even after the passing of a mere 2000 years. It is suggested in one book that Allah may be another name for the Outsider. Many of those who c…
03 Nov 2011, 15:35
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From: James Wynn Isn’t it established that Orpine was stabbed by Chenille? Orpine was possessed by Mucor and came on to Chenille — or so she interpreted it — alarming her. I as…
03 Nov 2011, 14:53
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From: Andrew Mason I forgot about that — it’s a very good point. Clearly Wolfe reckoned it could work well enough anyway, and indeed I think he is right. But he obviously was …
02 Nov 2011, 22:23
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From: Lee Berman What is the evidence other than it fitting your theological-cosmological framework? I think there is much evidence for a Jesus Christ. If Urth’s Mohammed preac…
02 Nov 2011, 21:22
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From: Dan'l Danehy-Oakes Indeed, I know about that and other matters. I think Severian (or am I imagining it?) may even suggest somehere that Urth’s core has cooled and geologic…
02 Nov 2011, 16:21
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From: David Stockhoff Even in Severian’s time scholars retain some understanding of English, as we know from Thea’s disquisition about the renaming of Verthandi and Skuld. The a…
02 Nov 2011, 14:29
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From: Lee Berman I don’t think it boils down to anything like that at all. The question of whether Urth had a Christ is one that you find significant, but it is only in your the…
02 Nov 2011, 14:14
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From: James Wynn It seems to me that there are problematical *incidents* which haven’t been explained, but that the main storyline actually sticks quite firmly to a non-time trav…
02 Nov 2011, 13:19
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From: David Stockhoff Wolfe’s quotes are certainly a major element, but the cyclic universe is described in a chapter of Citadel called “The Key to the Universe”. That Urth is t…
02 Nov 2011, 13:09
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From: David Stockhoff Yes, that too: or at least it symbolises the technological society of Typhon’s era, rather than the post-technological society of the Whorl in its current s…
28 Oct 2011, 18:20
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From: Lee Berman And if he next turns his hand to rewriting BotNS as a graphic novel, what will he do then? He will draw appropriate symbols, I think. In text, however, it is ea…
28 Oct 2011, 17:44
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From: Gwern Branwen We are only told the sequence on one such seal. I think we are to infer that all the seals are different. Silk later finds the dust from a broken seal of a …
28 Oct 2011, 17:18
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From: James Wynn Or that Horn and Nettle made them up. They can’t know every detail that is related anyway. I agree that Wolfe had the option of not citing specific numbers, and…
28 Oct 2011, 15:43
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From: Lee Berman How could they *not* be in a unique arrangement? And Silk would have done the same regardless of the numbers. If they have a deeper significance, it is a game …
28 Oct 2011, 15:07
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From: Lee Berman For once I agree with you, Lee. I just bought Nightside again the other day, I lost most of my books a while ago but I kept the last three of Long Sun. The fir…
28 Oct 2011, 04:31
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From: Lee Berman How neat. That people argue against your theories itself constitutes evidence for them in your mind. I told you why I argue against it already: Father Inire as…
27 Oct 2011, 18:08
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From: Lee Berman That is said by Sidero. I think that reference is specifically intended to mean that there is no other Ship of the same kind as Tzadkiel’s. Quite clearly, ther…
27 Oct 2011, 14:02
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From: David Stockhoff Probably lots of the old lost ships are still lost and turn up occasionally, like the Fortunate Cloud and perhaps the Quasar (we don’t know how Hethor retur…
27 Oct 2011, 13:38
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From: Andrew Mason Why are you all so negative about my theories! But yeah, I was trying to make the point that even if we knew that Hethor’s original name started with H we woul…
27 Oct 2011, 13:02
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From: Ant?nio Pedro Marques Of course such things can happen in real life: see “recovered memory syndrome”. - Gerry Quinn…
27 Oct 2011, 12:58
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From: Dan'l Danehy-Oakes I’m staying out of this until I’ve re-read Short Sun, then I’ll come up with naturalistic explanations if I can! I will note, however, that Master Ash in…
27 Oct 2011, 12:55
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From: Lee Berman Where is this ?hint?? The text TELLS us quite clearly that there were many: "He came to sell his clothes, and they were the kind worn on the old ships that sail…
27 Oct 2011, 12:37
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From: David Stockhoff It is a common expression in Ireland. If you say “he’s a header” it will be understood as “he’s a head case”. - Gerry Quinn…
26 Oct 2011, 15:01
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From: David Stockhoff [Hethor] I think he’s just a baddie, without too much symbolic overloading. Agia reckons she controls him, and it seems a fair assessment. Of course, he…
26 Oct 2011, 14:11
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From: Antonin Scriabin It was originally for Fifth Head of Cerberus, for which it’s a nice image except that like loads of versions it has been printed with washed-out colours wh…
25 Oct 2011, 19:15
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From: Antonin Scriabin It’s nice that they did something different. Not so nice that they did it so horribly. [ ] would read on train [x] would not read on train - Gerry Quinn…
25 Oct 2011, 19:10