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[roll eyes] Right. And the word "vine" is the only association to Dionysus in the book right? That's the only thing I've used to draw a connection to the inhumi and Dionysus, rig…
08 Dec 2010, 11:50
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It appears he hasn't read anything else by Wolfe. Granted, "The Wizard Knight" is probably not the novel anyone one would chose as the fulcrum of his body of work...but mostly be…
08 Dec 2010, 03:07
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I just remembered that Lee had connected "Silver Silk" and "Silent Silk" with Silvanus and Silenus. Silvanus was considered equivalent to Silenus who was the tutor and companion …
08 Dec 2010, 02:54
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Um....the "son of Thyone", is discussed or referenced at least four times in Return to the Whorl. That's a big deal being made of the child of an extremely minor goddess. The way…
07 Dec 2010, 23:52
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I don't know why you can't see this is an important quote. First of all, HORN is up-front about holding information back here. In a first person memoir, that's a _big_ deal. And …
07 Dec 2010, 14:04
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I'll answer this, however, one might as well speculate what are the odds Krait (very coincidentally ensouled by Horn's son) would find Horn in that pit after he had lain "unconsc…
07 Dec 2010, 04:22
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Again, the Rajan is not merely a Neighbor in human disguise. I understand why this is so hard to keep this in mind because it was a concept that was controversially debated in th…
07 Dec 2010, 04:20
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I just remembered that inhumi are seraphim-- flying deadly serpents-- ala Isaiah 14:26 and 30:6 (saraph uwph saraph). Leading angels into battle in a very Jesus-like thing. u+16…
06 Dec 2010, 23:23
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So...the deal-making was farce? The Rajan (who really just Silk after all) will go on to the Whorl and Neighbors will soon discover that their bargain is not worth the paper it w…
06 Dec 2010, 22:07
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I would not say so. I sat in on a Wolfe Q&A discussion in which someone said, "...and after all, Typhon was on the Whorl as Pas, in a way." Wolfe adamantly corrected him, "Not 'i…
06 Dec 2010, 21:24
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Yes. Horn dies twice. First in the pit on the island. Then on Green in the lander. What does he do that makes you think of him that way? And when you answer remember that everyt…
06 Dec 2010, 21:14
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More coming. But I'll answer these questions right now: It is ONLY legitimate _because_ HORN is _more_ than human. He-Pen-Sheep's people were in proximity to the Neighbor's on t…
06 Dec 2010, 19:54
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So do you posit that the monkeys are Inire's children, or that Inire and Fetchin are twins? u+16b9…
05 Dec 2010, 14:48
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Of course it's not Horn. (I say) Horn died in the pit and even his memories--those physically housed in his body--died on Green. By the time the Rajan begins writing the story, a…
05 Dec 2010, 00:09
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Even if your reading of "one whose spirit is dying" is the one intended (and it might well be), it comes to the same thing. We have examples of dying spirits in The Book of the S…
04 Dec 2010, 22:39
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Significantly, there are puppet references associated with Horn. Shortly after leaving home, he is attacked by a leatherskin, a creature with three jaws. It is Pinocchio's "dog f…
04 Dec 2010, 19:57
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Just as with the Storm King in AEG, the alien powers at the bottom of the oceans only matter to humanity because of their followers. It's sort of the same lesson as the inhumi. I…
03 Dec 2010, 21:50
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Merry Christmas, Stuart. Sincerly, Drag on the List. ;P…
03 Dec 2010, 21:34
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Time and dislocation have made the Gospels very Wolfean. Jesus was a very controversial figure. A lot of people did want him arrested and humiliated or just plain dead for what h…
03 Dec 2010, 19:09
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I don't think I seen Wolfe light up the way he did when I asked a question about AEG. But then, he might feel the same way about Home Fires right now.…
03 Dec 2010, 05:00
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heh heh Eh...I suppose. I just think that this quote is like the picture of the astronaut on the moon or the statue of Blind Justice. The reader is supposed to recognize it and …
03 Dec 2010, 03:08
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It is from the first chapter of Nightside: [referring to the merchants] "He would have to be firm with them, extremely firm. Remind them that the Outsider was known to esteem them…
02 Dec 2010, 23:30
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Once again, for Lee.... Horn on the ruinous island sees a Neighbor in the form of a greenbuck. He chases after it, falls in a pit, breaks his neck and dies. The reason I say he …
02 Dec 2010, 20:47
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Perhaps it is because I'm old-fashioned that I don't have a problem imagining the soul in the body as a person inside a suit. In fact, Wolfe almost never presents the soul in pur…
02 Dec 2010, 20:38
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Last year Wolfe said, (or I understood him to say) that Skip's last name is Reese [I don't know the spelling]. I asked Wolfe whether that implied HF was in the AEG universe. He r…
02 Dec 2010, 18:24
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I think the Logician term for that is "tit for tat". And here is an applicable opportunity to address the motives of a writer to understand his text. It would be a valid refutati…
02 Dec 2010, 16:41
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As I said, I believe the Rajan when he says that the Neighbors came from Blue. Point made. But the fact that there are lots of trees means nothing...zero. I'm not sure why you th…
02 Dec 2010, 07:05
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List oBW: "Blue's sentient race." List iGJ: "The name by which the sentient native race is known on Blue's western continent, the Vanished People." Hmmm...I'm a member of America…
02 Dec 2010, 03:45
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I think you are building a greater foundation for this issue that truly exists. As originally stated there were three posts that all agreed that Wright's premise that the Increat…
01 Dec 2010, 23:33
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But once you have decided to discuss Jameson's motives for his conclusions, haven't you changed the subject from analyzing his arguments to detailing his biography or excoriating…
01 Dec 2010, 22:52
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Ehh...this topic was not really discussed long or in depth before Wright's motives were opined. Saying "people, having decided, by whatever methods are thought appropriate, that …
01 Dec 2010, 22:26
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Analyzing an argument by the supposed motives of the arguer can quickly go off the rails. From "Pilgrim's Regress" by CS Lewis: "'Come, come,' said the jailor. "You must kn…
01 Dec 2010, 21:55
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I think this quote by Dan'l is very insightful and well-put. The solution to certain puzzles affect the way the text is read. And the way one is inclined to read the text affects…
01 Dec 2010, 19:48
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I know Silk's body had cuts on both his arms as well as his wrists. I didn't remember that it says he cut his face as well. Where does it say that? The cuts on his arms and wris…
01 Dec 2010, 17:17
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As someone who has a long list of explanations that are not shared by a large constituency, I must say that in my experience they are almost always engaged directly or not at all…
01 Dec 2010, 16:14
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Apparently, the Neighbor did not "lure" him to his death. That implies intent. At the end of RttW, the Rajan says: "We will sail tonight. Would you be willing to make my farewell…
01 Dec 2010, 14:24
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This was a typo influenced no doubt by the Green-Blue pairing of St Anne & St Croix. I don't believe St. Croix is Horn's planet. u+16b9…
30 Nov 2010, 22:12
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Okay. But if Wolfe is riffing off of Ragnarok (and I think there is sufficient evidence that he is) then surely he ascribes to the Poetic/Prose Edda versions (assuming there _is_…
30 Nov 2010, 21:41
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This is a common misapprehension. Odin's sons Vidar and Vali (Vidar having slain Fenrir) survive Ragnarok (the floods and fires) and live in the new fields where Asgard (now burn…
30 Nov 2010, 21:01
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Well, the inhumi are "demonic" but the C. writings are an accumulation of mythology, the Odyssey, the Gospels, Islamic tradition, and other writings. So, I agree that it is unnec…
30 Nov 2010, 19:30
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For a while, I maintained a place-holding hypothesis that the only pure humans left on Blue (besides very recent arrivals) were the Maitre and Number Five. But VRT-as-Marsch has …
30 Nov 2010, 18:41
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Unfortunately, I am the source for this, but it turned out that the reading was based on a printing defect in my copy of On Blue's Waters. I still think, based the meeting and ot…
30 Nov 2010, 17:52
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One should beware of what the text spells out in a Wolfe novel. In an interview, Wolfe referred to Sandwalker as a Shadow Child, which is not surprising considering…
30 Nov 2010, 15:08
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One should beware of what the text spells out in a Wolfe novel. In an interview, Wolfe referred to Sandwalker as a Shadow Child, which is not surprising considering their psychic…
30 Nov 2010, 15:06
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C.S. Lewis, whose books Wolfe claims to have read in their entirety, made a very impassioned argument in one of his books that D. was a being that pointed to Christ. It depends …
30 Nov 2010, 05:47
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I really don't understand why some people have a problem with Pan = Pas. I supposed it is because people have come to think of him as a minor woodland deity dancing around with w…
30 Nov 2010, 00:09
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I think this is an excellent and significant guess. I think you are on to something here. I don't know what. But I smell game. u+16b9…
29 Nov 2010, 23:26
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I haven't read Christmas Inn yet. I didn't realize the wife's name could be deduced and a search of the archives does not show that anyone else did either. However, this is the…
29 Nov 2010, 20:14
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Dionysus is an important god in Greek mythology but he is missing from the Whorl pantheon. I argue that the name "inhume" is associated with the Dionysus. http://urth.org/whorlma…
29 Nov 2010, 19:49
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I _do_ like the connection between Pas and Pazuzu. I mean, it works so sweetly as a connection between Pas and Typhon. BUT I find the connection between Pas and Pan so compelling …
29 Nov 2010, 19:46
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