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But, Lee, if Wolfe is truly keying off of Genesis 6, where is Noah? The ark? The animals? The ark can't be the Whorl because it wasn't written yet. Noah can't be Severian because…
29 Dec 2010, 15:35
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They are only as bad as we are. If people did not prey on each other, then the ensouled inhumi would die shortly after birth. Only the animal inhumi would survive. I believe this…
28 Dec 2010, 23:56
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Actually, that's the opposite lesson of Dr Veil and of the evolutionary loss of the carapace. If the abos are perfect imitations, then they must lose the ability to shape-shift a…
28 Dec 2010, 21:27
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All totally different. The first is an example "persons becoming myth" that I spoke of. The second is literary allusion: the author embedding literature into his narrative, not t…
28 Dec 2010, 21:27
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The Rajan is the same. But I believe it is a teensy bit more complicated than Horn in Silk's body. http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/2010-December/018826.html Wolfe …
28 Dec 2010, 19:59
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Well, you should because the Rajan asserts the Neighbors' home planet was Blue, not Green. u+16b9…
28 Dec 2010, 19:36
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It's not really the same thing as what Thomas seemed to be implying. It's true that Wolfe constantly demonstrates how myth becomes real, how real people become myth, how lies bec…
28 Dec 2010, 19:32
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It is emphatically the case that the Mother on Blue is connected to Megatherian Scylla. Whether they are of the same species or whether Mother is some sort of branch from the ori…
28 Dec 2010, 19:16
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Well, that's not really what I meant, and I suppose you know that. But for clarity, I meant that if Wolfe had intended to imply that inhumi were _active_ on the Urth of Severian,…
28 Dec 2010, 19:02
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Wolfe said that Quetzal was a recent arrival, and since I believe his mother fed on Tussah that sounds reasonable to me. But when that question was asked, no one knew about the o…
28 Dec 2010, 18:04
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Okay, there's also "The Island of Doctor Death and Other Stories" as well where a character in a short story reads a book of short stories, and they all know they are characters …
28 Dec 2010, 18:03
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Getting moderately frustrated. Let's start again. You say "Besides the fact that [astral travel uses mental maps rather than physical ones] is *the* probable way a travel powered …
28 Dec 2010, 17:20
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Oh. Sorry. It's just that was what _I_ was commenting on. That's what the thread was about. Your correction is quite terse. What are you talking about? u+16b9…
28 Dec 2010, 16:59
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I can't even imagine the mechanics of this. It sounds more like mysticism than fantasy or SF. Either that is like one of those cartoons from the 1930s where the characters walk i…
28 Dec 2010, 16:26
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I'm not crazy about Lee's postulation either. If Nessus is connected to the distant cities of Green, why is it not connected to any city in the galaxy that has a mirror in it? Bu…
28 Dec 2010, 15:39
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Touche What makes you think Krait can do that? When did he do that? Oh. You're making a serious point! Do you really think this is a possibility? u+16b9…
28 Dec 2010, 15:17
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I'm glad to see that Brunians is back.…
28 Dec 2010, 03:45
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I'm not sure I understand what it is. Are you saying Green/Blue circle the Black Hole? u+16b9…
28 Dec 2010, 01:58
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This is an aspect of Marc's evolved theory that people sometimes miss. There is a lot about Blue that might recommend it to a long ago flooded world. That's the way Marc original…
27 Dec 2010, 20:07
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Marc, I was as disturbed as you when the party in IGJ went to Urth by mistake. So, how do we get from the Urth of Severian to the planets of Blue and Green? How do you explain t…
27 Dec 2010, 16:27
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Actually the weighty arguments I had in mind were the quotes you offered that seems to set Sol far away from Blue and Green. I find those quite bracing. Arguments of practicality…
26 Dec 2010, 16:07
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It's worth noting that this list was at the time of that interview in heated debate over Marc's theories about Blushas or Grushas. Marc had posted on a communication he had had w…
26 Dec 2010, 03:54
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Well, here's the deal on Sol vs Blue/Green. Marc, you have a couple quotes that give me pause--that have always made me feel that Sol and the sun of the Neighbors are very close.…
26 Dec 2010, 03:44
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Hee hee. I like this. Or "The Christmas Inn!" Come to think of it, "The Tree Is My Hat" has a hidden Christmas theme. Really, we have until the Winter Solstice of 2012. Perhaps t…
25 Dec 2010, 18:09
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I'm not making any claims about Ouen. The Stream introduces Time-travel so all bets are off regarding age differences. That would be useful. "This theory sucks. There's no way i…
22 Dec 2010, 18:10
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Err...no one? Because astral traveling had not yet been introduced into the story? How many found the astral Oreb odd? Everyone. Didn't you? . Do you have one? Ummm...but we DO …
22 Dec 2010, 17:35
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Thanks, Ryan. My only problem with this is the conflating of what the text says and presumptions about what the text means. Right. I don't think this information is in dispute. …
22 Dec 2010, 17:25
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Okay. What could possibly establish that for you? Oreb adamantly affirms that it wasn't him. His twin? His father? How about an alternate theory? So, you're answer is "We can't …
22 Dec 2010, 16:55
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I just remembered that there IS cloning in tBotNS. The House Azure, right? u+16b9…
22 Dec 2010, 16:12
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Really? So Silk seeing an astral flying Oreb in his room while the current Oreb is lame downstairs doesn't give you pause? Incanto and Oreb in the grandmother's tale from her you…
22 Dec 2010, 16:09
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Joseph Campbell would probably categorize these as the same. But I see Grendel as more comparable to Theseus/Minotaur and Gilgamesh/Enkidu and Hercules wrestling with Death and wi…
22 Dec 2010, 15:59
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In mythology, the Hero Against the Serpent is a common icon. Sigurd and Fafnir St. George/St. Michael and the dragons Apollo and Hera's delphic dragon Indra and Vrtra…
22 Dec 2010, 14:40
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For me, the implication is too strong that an obviously referenced mythological character (which Wolfe has identified) has the same name as one of the monsters. u+16b9…
22 Dec 2010, 12:43
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I like the idea of the stream as Brook Madrigot. In fact, that interpretation seems obvious now. If Catherine were a time traveller, it explains where she's got to. But if Sev's …
22 Dec 2010, 04:19
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Well, not necessarily. In fact, I disagree. Ouen is similar to Severian in appearance. Very very similar. However, no one AFAIK actually SAYS he's Severian's father. This is a pa…
22 Dec 2010, 03:44
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Ha ha! I wouldn't worry about it. You can take a load off and sit here next to me. Your journey has ended. u+16b9…
21 Dec 2010, 22:41
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I really can't say anything about the opinions of people who write creeds and Statements of Faith. I have known only people who sit in the pews. Of those who attend church devote…
21 Dec 2010, 22:38
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That's not a logical conclusion by any stretch of what I've said or anyone I've read. Nor it is anything like what I've posited. By the same token, I could take your sarcasm to t…
21 Dec 2010, 22:17
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Yeah. Why would Typhon have a perverse reason to do anything? Who ever heard of a tyrant disposing of his mistress? What could be a less convenient method than loading her on a g…
21 Dec 2010, 21:02
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Well, he /was/ a greenbuck. I don't know his name or whether such concepts are valid for Neighbors. The Not Horn becomes the father of the Not Sinew. But in a sense, they were fa…
21 Dec 2010, 20:23
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Severian knew Dorcas before he knew Ouen. They might have even been lovers before he met Ouen. So why bring up Ouen at all? Well, appearance suggests they /are/ connected. But an…
21 Dec 2010, 19:17
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I believe that Spring Wind in the Story of Frog is Typhon. Some story-teller read the story of Romulus and fragments of the Jungle Books and said, "Oh, these are /obviously/ just…
21 Dec 2010, 18:08
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It's not pointless. It connects Severian to Dorcas. But Severian helping his biological father find his mother, but never finding his his biological mother strikes me as really w…
21 Dec 2010, 17:19
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It also leads to the discovery of a treasure. And thus, Weer ends up the eventual owner of Smart's company. u+16b9…
21 Dec 2010, 16:16
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It's true. You've failed to follow. That thread was regarding why and whether "The Book of the New Sun" contradicted Christian theology. What I said was that there is no reason …
21 Dec 2010, 16:12
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More than that, Fava IIRC says it is an inhumi and that he talks to it at night. It's more than a stand in. Marc, here's the reason I've found your hybridization theory unconvin…
21 Dec 2010, 16:06
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Typhon is not JUST Alexander, anymore than Pas is JUST Pan. Typhon, I suspect, is the Student. And, Severian "brother/ancestor" is the hero. We are told the story of The Student …
21 Dec 2010, 15:01
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A careful comparison between the mausoleum Severian describes in Shadow of the Torturer and the mausoleum described in RttW, shows that the number of caskets and such do not appe…
21 Dec 2010, 13:42
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Well, I don't *think* that Tartaros possessing him and making him do something is the even similar to Auk "thinking more clearly" OR receiving a message from Tartaros.…
21 Dec 2010, 13:00
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Oh, yeah. Auk. I strongly suspect he is a clone of Tartaros based on what he said in the Q&A: Question: "Why did Auk/Tartaros kidnap Hyacinth, and why, subsequently, did …
21 Dec 2010, 12:37
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