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Hmm...I've always considered it a dream state. Was there an inhumi nearby? I must ponder. Possibly. There was that guy the he shook hands with at the meeting with the Neighbors.…
23 Nov 2011, 20:45
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I don't think there is any exchange of DNA between humans and inhumi (or with Neighbors so far as I know). Only souls are transferred. Is the transfer only one way? I don't know. …
23 Nov 2011, 20:41
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Well, admittedly it is not emphatic. But it was the reading I gleaned from the following exchange: **************** He nodded solemnly. "Afraid Neighbor-man." When I asked what a…
23 Nov 2011, 20:38
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Precisely correct except that "reptile" is an analogy. One should not assume a true reptile nature. As the Rajan says: "These people, like people everywhere here, seem to fear th…
23 Nov 2011, 19:29
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Lee, not Dan'l, sent this original message. Sorry Dan'l.…
23 Nov 2011, 19:14
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This isn't really my theory. I have proposed that the inhumi /become/ vines by feeding Neighbors. I really doubt they started out that way. The lianna inhumi are on Blue for the …
23 Nov 2011, 19:13
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See the bottom of this page Pedro. http://lists.urth.net/listinfo.cgi/urth-urth.net You subscribed yourself. You must unsubscribe yourself. Good luck to you.…
23 Nov 2011, 19:09
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There is no precedence for Mucor possessing and animal to travel to a location and then "chaining" into an astral appearance. Given her apparent powers, I can't imagine why such …
23 Nov 2011, 18:41
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I have more unrecorded thoughts at this point. Yet, they are still discernible to the to careful reader I think.…
23 Nov 2011, 18:12
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In order to answer this question, we'd really have to know what the purpose in sending Seawrack was in the first place. Was her purpose solely for Horn? Did Mother decide Horn was…
23 Nov 2011, 18:03
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On 11/22/2011 11:45 AM, Let me take another shot at their connection (although I don't think I'm there yet): The Neighbors are trees. Not like the Ents of Tolkien. They are like…
23 Nov 2011, 17:43
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I don't think it comes down to lie. Hm. [I have unrecorded thoughts here. Use the powers of subtext to divine them.] It would be the most self-evidently convenient if he met Muc…
23 Nov 2011, 17:19
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Actually, although I have not broken down the time-line for the SS to weeks and months, I believe the time for the return of meeting Hide/Hoof is much shorter than I expected (ba…
23 Nov 2011, 17:14
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This post is kind of a backsliding from my rejection of Silk As Typhon's Son in favor of Silk As Typhon. They still could BOTH be true. Typhon /had/ such a son...whoever was the…
23 Nov 2011, 17:08
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Well, in Severian Wolfe doesn't deal with the Incarnation. He doesn't present an example of a Trinity...how Three can be separate but One. The concept of resurrection is much mor…
23 Nov 2011, 17:06
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On 11/23/2011 9:50 AM, ?! Really? That's what it would boil down to for you? Because it is not that simple. I'm not sure she could have explained it to Horn even if she understo…
23 Nov 2011, 16:08
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http://www.scifiwright.com/2011/11/home-fires-by-gene-wolfe-those-who-dwell-in-hell-also-keep-them-burning/…
23 Nov 2011, 16:02
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Sent from my iPhone Honestly, as my understanding of what is going on SS has developed, I have come to see the echoes in Sev to be of a gnostic Jesus but the echoes in the Rajan t…
23 Nov 2011, 13:51
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No. I am posing that Silk was bleeding before Hy's casket well before that day.…
23 Nov 2011, 13:40
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Over and over, the narrator reminds us of what a miserable failure his mission was. Thus we know that Horn is not completely gone in the Rajan. His spirit fled when he tumbled in…
22 Nov 2011, 23:26
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I suppose that I could rationalize that since neither she nor the Rajan had been to Silk and Hy's cabin before, he couldn't take her there.…
22 Nov 2011, 21:45
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Because she is looking for a Silk that Horn can bring to New Viron. If she takes _this_ Silk then there will _be_ no New Viron. Also, Wolfe seems to be excluding temporal paradox…
22 Nov 2011, 21:32
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You know, having come kicking and screaming to the conclusion that Silk is positively a clone of Typhon, this actually complicates Silk's encounter on the Aureate Path. Let's say…
22 Nov 2011, 21:16
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Exactly. Thank you, Antonio.…
22 Nov 2011, 21:10
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I wanted to also say that I need to break down the time-line as much as possible into days, weeks, months to see if I can show that Horn's travels and the Rajan's overlap.…
22 Nov 2011, 21:02
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I should say that this event straddle's both my readings that Incus is female** and that Hy is the inhuma, Fava, in dream-travel. Hy was not the woman he should bring, but Incus w…
22 Nov 2011, 20:58
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I'd have to look at the text you are referring to in context. I think you are getting two names mixed up. Marble's name before he was inducted was Magnesia and she takes that na…
22 Nov 2011, 20:45
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Well, that's still a resurrection. But I get your point that the concept of the narrator's *identity* is completely subverted by my reading. And that is what is so *Wolfean* abou…
22 Nov 2011, 20:31
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Andrew, I don't know if you saw my response to you on 11/9... http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/2011-November/024264.html ... but at that point I posed that the Mucor t…
22 Nov 2011, 20:27
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Sure. This is not like the end OBW where Marc believes he detects a death. The death on Green is not treated this way. The narrator makes a big freakin deal over the moment Horn f…
22 Nov 2011, 17:24
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I don't think there is any "group". I 've never met any of these people. I feel my arguments have been more systematically critical of Marc's Tree Theory as well as his Green Ur…
22 Nov 2011, 17:19
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And I'm so dense I didn't even realize I was supposed to do that.…
22 Nov 2011, 00:07
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yeah. He didn't need to complicate things by having both her and Babbie check him out and say, "Well, I guess dead. No sense trying to listen to his heart or anything. <cue the S…
21 Nov 2011, 23:54
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No. It only *necessarily* undermines a particular reading of that event. On the first reading, the audience assumes that Horn made it to Green and is then transported to Silk. But…
21 Nov 2011, 22:21
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I don't know what to say to this, Sergei. I think people who claim that Seawrack was wrong need to explain why Wolfe would have her make such a false diagnosis in the first place.…
21 Nov 2011, 21:53
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In a very real sense, all creatures of Faerie are faeries. In An Evil Guest, there are bizarre animals in Woldercon (analogous to Faerie) who are descendents of the Wolderconese.…
21 Nov 2011, 19:31
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I absolutely agree. But unpleasant thematic or narrative consequences is not a reason to reject the obvious direction the story has taken. I miss a lot of cues the first time whe…
21 Nov 2011, 19:26
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How could anyone assert that as a rule in the Long Sun/Short Sun?…
21 Nov 2011, 19:15
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Okay. It happened after Krait went away and before he came back. I don't think so. I'm pretty certain that is a faulty reading. But fine. AND before that Horn died in the pit and …
21 Nov 2011, 19:13
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What an absurd presumption. I would never make it. Certainly, not considering Horn is going to soon meet a Neighbor who claims his name is also "Horn". There is no reason that th…
21 Nov 2011, 18:48
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I made no such concession. I said I *prefer* an earlier appearance. I still do. I have no problem presenting a theory to tie the events together and allow people to shoot at it. …
21 Nov 2011, 18:42
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Yes, after she gets a look at him. It was not the Horn *she* remembered, I think. The same kind of travel Fava engages in after she died.…
21 Nov 2011, 17:59
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Look, Gerry, I'm willing to debate when he sees the Neighbor and why. But not without establishing that Horn has died. We simply are not going to agree about the meaning of any p…
21 Nov 2011, 17:51
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I think he goes to Nettle in her dreams. Otherwise, why is she not surprised to see him there?…
21 Nov 2011, 17:41
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This fellow is our Neighbor Narrator. I think the easiest version is to say that this is Horn's last memories right after he has fallen into the pit...the last seconds before his …
21 Nov 2011, 17:35
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Gerry, Gerry, Gerry... Sigh. I post the text again with the (what I mistakenly thought was unnecessary) excised text. : *************** The first paragraph relates events AFTER …
21 Nov 2011, 17:08
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I absolutely see that. But I think we need go where the text is taking us. As I said, Horn dying and being resurrected is a mystery that we should discuss. WHETHER he dies and re…
21 Nov 2011, 16:42
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Associating fauns (or any other half animal/human being) with faerie creatures is no great leap as anyone who has read The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe (or An Evil Guest) should…
21 Nov 2011, 14:05
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Gerry, that's not what he wrote. He explicitly says, "Once, as I lay there at the bottom of the pit". The point in the story is undetermined but it is BEFORE he sat up. It straight…
21 Nov 2011, 13:57
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Well, if say his head were turned at a wrong angle. Yeah, she's no doctor. And yet she doesn't seem to doubt her assessment even when Horn comes marching back alive. I believe Or…
21 Nov 2011, 02:32
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