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PM, Ant?nio Marques wrote: The reason he is there is because he knows he is supposed to be there. And for all I know, it's a little Time-travel reminiscing. If you had the abilit…
17 Nov 2011, 23:11
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Ermmm...maybe. I suppose it COULD be taken that way. I was thinking of the issue narratively rather than thematically. Why was it necessary for SILK to be transported to Mainfram…
17 Nov 2011, 23:06
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NOT A PARODY. Does Wolfe mock his faith? It is a living out of the symbolic connotation, and the way that man will achieve life even after he has died as a race, living on …
17 Nov 2011, 22:58
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Pas was only killed 20 years earlier.…
17 Nov 2011, 21:44
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Even Pas only needs one phallus. The rest could be all over the Whorl. I presume he didn't know he was going to be murdered. The question (maybe) you are posing is..."why is Silk…
17 Nov 2011, 21:43
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So why would PIKE be wearing Pike's callotte? Pike is a ghost. He doesn't need head covering. I don't see the significance of the ghost wearing Pike's callotte. ANYONE who broke …
17 Nov 2011, 20:54
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It was established that Scylla possessed Oreb after Pas was resurrected. She is on the run. Silk is the phallus because he is sent to Mainframe to supplement Pas after the resur…
17 Nov 2011, 20:52
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That you would ask this question again is evidence that you are not reading my responses, and that you are not very familiar with the novel.…
17 Nov 2011, 20:04
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Not in "historical time". Plutarch related the story of the annunciation of the death of Pas around 70BC. Other than the phallus, the parts aren't specified. I don't think it is …
17 Nov 2011, 20:02
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For the record, Panzuzu and Enkidu are not allusions I have drawn. I only vouch for my own. But Wolfe can reasonably see --drawing a totally unassociated example-- that Hesphestu…
17 Nov 2011, 19:47
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I kind of like the idea of Pas on the business end of a sacrifice. Also, there is the whole (quite intentional) Osiris motif in which Isis (Kypris) has to run around gathering pa…
17 Nov 2011, 19:03
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I'm not sure I'd go so far. For example, I think it is obvious that the Narrator is a Neighbor. But people have read the SS *with my suggetions in mind* and come away saying "I d…
17 Nov 2011, 18:30
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It could have happened at any time the night chough perched in front of the right sacred window or monitor. It would have happened before Silk's story began. But evidence that Pa…
17 Nov 2011, 17:54
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"Silly literalism"? Is this sarcasm? Because taking a statement like this from you as said earnest is really too much. Not even good enough for you, huh? Having had posited a th…
17 Nov 2011, 17:28
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Possessed creatures have capabilities beyond those possible for non-possessed creatures. When Chenille is possessed by Scylla she leaps out of the water like a dolphin. When she …
17 Nov 2011, 17:14
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How does the manipulation work? Is there any other evidence that the Rajan can do that? The evidence has already been presented and is understood. The Rajan's presence in the g…
17 Nov 2011, 17:01
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No. *According to the text* Silk saw *Oreb*. He only doubted himself based on the fact that "it made no sense" since Oreb couldn't fly. Then he collects a series of other rationa…
17 Nov 2011, 16:50
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I have absolutely no idea how the inhumi are lianas. I only know that they are. It really makes no sense to me. Marc has a method that satisfies him but it doesn't satisfy me. St…
17 Nov 2011, 16:39
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Well, I still see Horn in Babbie. I see Rose in Marble's hands. Kypris was in the Mainframe and in Chenille at the same time. I have no problem with Marc's interpretation that Ho…
17 Nov 2011, 16:36
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I don't think I can "prove" that touch is sufficient, but we can safely assume that it does require being eaten (actually "change blood" is the term He-Pen-Sheep and She-Pick-Ber…
17 Nov 2011, 16:12
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Gerry, Gerry, Gerry you know quite well that you have postulated theories regarding this far more elaborate than that. ********* **************** Additionally: ************ **…
17 Nov 2011, 15:58
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We'll have to examine that event in context.…
17 Nov 2011, 15:31
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When Neighbors touch they "share blood". Just as when the Rajan shakes hand with the enemy colonel and he can suddenly hear Seawrack's singing. When the "other" Horn says "I am H…
17 Nov 2011, 15:29
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Based on my interpretation, there is no "Horn" left to die. His spirit left when he broke his neck in the pit (I'm guessing that since Seawrack and Babbie could plainly tell that…
17 Nov 2011, 15:18
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Oreb didn't deceive at that time. It is inconceivable that Silk, who has performed dozens if not hundreds of sacrifices by this time, would not know the difference between a dead…
17 Nov 2011, 14:57
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1) I don't believe there has been any satisfactory full explanation of this. 2) When Horn dies in the the pit, his spirit goes to the Outsider. Horn's body is possessed by a Neig…
17 Nov 2011, 14:50
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Horn died in the pit. That is when his spirit abandoned his body and went the Outsider. That is why the Rajan, at the end of RttW says that he "killed" Hoof & Hide's father. The …
17 Nov 2011, 14:43
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I'm guessing "Babbie" is probably Marble/Magnesia's cutesy nickname for "Babirusa"-- a fine Vironese name for a male hus.…
17 Nov 2011, 03:16
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It's an interesting discourse between Scylla-Oreb and Hoof. But I don't think she's saying she ate children on Urth: start text********* She laughed some more and got me real ma…
17 Nov 2011, 02:18
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Okay. He's a squinty-eyed forty-three year old with long white hair whose appearance is marginally affected by the way the thinks of himself. And who is Silk's mentor? Pike. IMO,…
17 Nov 2011, 01:12
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He could have done it at any time. It isn't reasonable that he recorded everything. There is also aaaaall that time after they left for the Whorl. And I think that is more likely.…
16 Nov 2011, 21:28
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No. I don't agree with Marc's explanation that Horn's spirit fled wholesale into Babbie. I think it is certain that Babbie has some Silk in him at the time we see him wearing gla…
16 Nov 2011, 21:20
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Unfortunately, no details about how she vanished, whether in mist or fading into a green slime. I would have *liked* Wolfe to have included that, but he didn't, so there it is.…
16 Nov 2011, 21:08
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We've already seen the night chough. Just because Silk had not seen the Rajan yet does not mean he is not there here. Oreb's presence says he must be. As is always the case, Oreb…
16 Nov 2011, 21:06
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Just a big coincidence? This is Silk's rationalization since...what else could it be? In literature, this is called irony. The reader is expected to arrive at meaning that the c…
16 Nov 2011, 19:22
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Does anyone but Silk wear glasses in this story?…
16 Nov 2011, 19:04
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"Objectively" apply your ideas of "textual" criticism to Wolfe's story "Seven American Nights". Use it to show how you can start without a "theory" to fill in the blanks left by …
16 Nov 2011, 18:21
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I think this viewpoint is an aspect of how Wolfe chose to tell the story and the fact that the reader does not realize during OBW all that has occurred before. Horn's relationshi…
16 Nov 2011, 18:17
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Why is she hanging out with her own "Oreb"?…
16 Nov 2011, 18:05
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The short answer would be "I have no idea".…
16 Nov 2011, 17:20
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I me too, although nothing I says seems to "stick". The point is that we are led step-by-step to the most likely conclusion: 1) Oreb is there and flies. Oreb at this point in the…
16 Nov 2011, 17:19
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Now your are being ornery. I already stated that it was the same on the gondolas (no tunnel lights). Transparency is NOT (I reiterate) NOT the only difference or even the signifi…
16 Nov 2011, 17:03
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Ah ha! See? That's the way she disappeared on the gondola. But it is different from the way she disappears on the night of Pike's ghost.…
16 Nov 2011, 16:17
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That might be the meaning of the prophecy. Or the prophecy might mean more (tusks, by strict definition, are not horns). But it doesn't mean that the Rajan has been suddenly purg…
16 Nov 2011, 15:53
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I meant appearing astrally without a mirror or by possessing a body. Do you have the page for her appearance in the tunnels?…
16 Nov 2011, 15:43
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Gerry Quinn wrote: It's certainly worth bringing up, but it is hardly a deal breaker. The quote from OBW: ******************* The witch had been described to me as being very thin…
16 Nov 2011, 15:28
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That's worse than pedestrian. It's not even trying. There's no evidence that he is in any hurry to get back to Lizard Island. Does it ever say he looks somewhat like Horn in whil…
16 Nov 2011, 03:48
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You might be right. But I don't really think you appreciate why it bothers me. Why doesn't the Rajan say good-bye to Seawrack, or Pig, or any of the other people he has met on hi…
16 Nov 2011, 02:49
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Let's take this on. The scene occurs after the Rajan has returned from the Whorl with Silk's body. After Horn's body was destroyed on Green. Krait is dead. Sinew is on Green. He…
16 Nov 2011, 02:31
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And only Sand says it. And he literally *never* calls Violet by her name, or anything else.…
15 Nov 2011, 02:43
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