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We can agree it's not simile!? that would have been cool and more clear. "No, no, no!? Green is like or as Urth!"? bwa ha ha ha ha ha. The fallout from that chain of events is wh…
05 Nov 2011, 16:23
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--- On Sat, 11/5/11, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> wrote: From: Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> Subject: Re: (urth) This week in Google alerts To: "The Urth Mailing Lis…
05 Nov 2011, 16:20
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And as far as Green's redemption being evil ... hostile to normal biological men now. Is Severian's salvation false? Is the Green man evil? I don't know. I just know Green is t…
05 Nov 2011, 15:53
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He said in response to my question about the that Green is urth. Green is, of course, Urth's future. This is the rise of the green man, and the ruins on green are all that remain…
05 Nov 2011, 15:48
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Well, Lee, our primary difference as far as the importance of dionysius is that I think it directly relates to the text and that Jesus/The Outsider were fully present in the past o…
05 Nov 2011, 06:21
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--- On Fri, 11/4/11, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote: . But I *do* know what I'm talking about here, and Wolfe is throwing reference after reference to Dionysus. I can'…
04 Nov 2011, 20:39
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Sergei, if we deny the underpinnings of the foliage in this sequence and its thematic relevance and believe an allusion to a god of the wood is acccidental, then we are really miss…
04 Nov 2011, 20:27
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as always, good laughs were had all around on the Urth list. Deities of the wood will of course be of the utmost relevance in any Sun novel from Vodalus of the wood to the fierce …
04 Nov 2011, 20:23
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--- On Thu, 11/3/11, Dave Tallman <davetallman at msn.com> wrote: From: Dave Tallman <davetallman at msn.com> Subject: Re: (urth) Pike/Oreb To: urth at lists.urth.net Date: Thur…
03 Nov 2011, 22:07
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There is also a fair amount of ambiguously creepy same sex molestation in Wolfe for an author considered so heterodox in his morality system, even extending to a Catholic priest be…
03 Nov 2011, 17:52
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There is a similar switch in Castleview where we see one girl die and are then at the funeral of the other girl that reminds me of the Fava and friends situation, really disconcert…
03 Nov 2011, 17:29
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James, there is also the possibility that doll Mucor and Fava in the dreams are retrieving Hy's soul, and that they are separate, but they can serve as a conduit to the past withou…
03 Nov 2011, 17:24
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And going to kill himself on the airship. Just cheating with Saba, or worse?…
03 Nov 2011, 15:52
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--- On Thu, 11/3/11, Craig Brewer <cnbrewer at yahoo.com> wrote: From: Craig Brewer <cnbrewer at yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (urth) Hyacinth To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth at list…
03 Nov 2011, 15:41
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heh heh heh was that my fault? sometimes I forget who said what when. There is definitely something off about Hy, looking in her little ring and changing her appearance, but I ag…
03 Nov 2011, 15:26
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--- On Thu, 11/3/11, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote: From: Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (urth) This week in Google alerts To: "The Urth Mai…
03 Nov 2011, 15:21
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--- On Wed, 11/2/11, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> wrote: From: Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> Subject: Re: (urth) This week in Google alerts To: "The Urth Mailing Lis…
03 Nov 2011, 15:17
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quite simply it is the name, the fake breasts, here surprising ability to fight, and the statue of Catamitus that is near her room when Silk breaks in. On the other hand, Blood ha…
03 Nov 2011, 15:11
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Yes, there are really only three possibilities, and none of them could be guessed at that point. The properties of mainframe and the appearance of those who are gone, time travel,…
01 Nov 2011, 20:28
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But that means Astral Silk and Rose have to get it on. I just don't want to follow that to its end. Has Silk aged enough to be "older" than he should be in Short Sun? Living the…
01 Nov 2011, 19:59
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--- On Tue, 11/1/11, Dave Tallman <davetallman at msn.com> wrote: From: Dave Tallman <davetallman at msn.com> Subject: Re: (urth) Pike/Oreb To: urth at lists.urth.net Date: Tuesd…
01 Nov 2011, 17:57
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--- On Thu, 10/27/11, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> wrote: From: Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> Subject: Re: (urth) Horn's ability To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth at…
28 Oct 2011, 05:24
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--- On Thu, 10/27/11, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> wrote: From: Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> Subject: Re: (urth) mysteries of the long sun To: "The Urth Mailing Lis…
28 Oct 2011, 04:35
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Okay, I think these mysteries are from Nightside: the patch of skin on the roof, why the bird is called Hyrax, why Mint cares about Auk, why the statue of Catamitus is near Hyacint…
28 Oct 2011, 03:50
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I don't expect consensus anymore (it's not useful at all when discussing Wolfe), but I do believe in absolute truth. Complaints are simply not relevant in this particular case, fo…
26 Oct 2011, 17:20
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In Bill and Ted, a garbage nonsense movie, their ability to influence the course of events is absurdly "ghost in the machine" type stuff. They need help out of a tight spot so the…
26 Oct 2011, 15:21
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26 Oct 2011, 15:13
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26 Oct 2011, 15:12
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--- On Wed, 10/26/11, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> wrote: From: Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> Subject: Re: (urth) Father Inire as Dionysus To: "The Urth Mailing List…
26 Oct 2011, 15:09
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This morning as I was coming in to work, Umberto Eco was on the radio! In his thick accent, he was answering questions about his writing philosophy and making other comments. I wa…
26 Oct 2011, 15:01
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My position, too. For sure. and I rather like the little doll in the dreams as mucor teaming up with fava spirit (or whoever is dead). Dream travel is definitely time travel.…
26 Oct 2011, 14:56
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--- On Tue, 10/25/11, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> wrote: From: Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> Subject: Re: (urth) Words and Such art To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urt…
25 Oct 2011, 19:25
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leif in the wind…
25 Oct 2011, 17:17
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--- On Tue, 10/25/11, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote: From: James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> Subject: Re: (urth) Father Inire as Dionysus To: "The Urth Mailing List" <u…
25 Oct 2011, 15:24
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My problem with all this is simply dismissing evidence in the text. I don't like James' Tussah as Typhon because Silk and Chenille don't look alike, its an insurmountable block fo…
23 Oct 2011, 18:56
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--- On Sun, 10/23/11, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> wrote: From: Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> Subject: Re: (urth) Silk's origin To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth at …
23 Oct 2011, 18:45
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No, you misunderstand me. Of course he can critique his religion. I'm just not sure that's what he's doing. I think he is showing how when Typhon rips it off and tries to take Go…
23 Oct 2011, 01:34
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But ... but ... while certainly there are catholic ceremonies and celibate echoes of the priesthood in both all the Sun novels, it is tradition perverted. This is the religion Wol…
22 Oct 2011, 23:16
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isn't there at all, not ar al, of course. My apologies, I should look at what I type. --- On Fri, 10/21/11, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote: From: Marc Aramini <ma…
22 Oct 2011, 03:47
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--- On Fri, 10/21/11, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> wrote: Are you suggesting that I should refrain from pointing out problems I observe in theories that are proposed …
22 Oct 2011, 03:45
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Every body agrees on that because Wolfe said it in early interviews. Otherwise, we would be arguing about that, too.…
22 Oct 2011, 03:31
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--- On Fri, 10/21/11, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> wrote: What exactly are the things we need to explain? - Gerry Quinn ?The bumps in the night with the staff, the tre…
21 Oct 2011, 15:38
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Well, sometimes the more people ostensibly have in common with you, the more you argue with them (wolfe mailing list, anyone?). I like Wolfe's definition there.…
20 Oct 2011, 19:01
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Yeah, I feel like the tree thing is very very explicit but its ubiquitous nature in the text is ignored in lieu of attacking the straw man green is urth scenario. I agree the monk…
20 Oct 2011, 18:21
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Yes. conflating too many identities risks making the whole thing fall apart on a story level. I don't like that trend in Borski's approach in general.…
20 Oct 2011, 03:37
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Heh heh, no, it's just James graciously posted up my essay almost a decade ago that confronted this. He must have read it. Liana as primitive inhumi, parasites on the vanished go…
20 Oct 2011, 02:51
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--- On Wed, 10/19/11, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote: And yet, we are told that the Rajan's staff was an inhumi and that at night he spoke to it. It's unexpected, even …
19 Oct 2011, 22:43
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--- On Wed, 10/19/11, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> wrote: From: Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> Subject: Re: (urth) Urth-Earth links To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth …
19 Oct 2011, 15:27
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--- On Wed, 10/19/11, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> wrote: From: Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> Subject: Re: (urth) Undine's nature To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth a…
19 Oct 2011, 15:18
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I don't believe Short Sun changes this or retcons it, I think the Vanished People and the inhumi are man and their modifications of themselves. Tree genetic template + mankind = va…
18 Oct 2011, 15:25
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