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Sorry James, I am out of my element even commenting here, all that cosmic stuff gives me a headache, but by the end of Urth Sev had become the Oannes of his people, their fish god,…
17 Jan 2011, 19:06
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And Pas just seems more benevolent than the guy Sev catches: Echidna or Scylla (sorry not sure which) has a love which traps and continas, Pas is said to have a love that sets free…
17 Jan 2011, 19:02
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I think we have to agree to disagree about his style. He elides habitually. He just does it, he isn't a concrete straightforward writer and these cryptic little visions operate a…
17 Jan 2011, 16:28
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But the daughter of Tussah's body Chenille has dark eyes, and her body type is one more like Auks, according to Horn. I can't see that Tussah is a clone of Typhon at all, because S…
17 Jan 2011, 01:43
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Oh yeah, in that scene where Silk talks to the Outsider in Calde, where Kypris is identified as Hyacinth and mother, it says, "With help from a friendly tree, he walked the stony r…
17 Jan 2011, 01:23
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--- On Sun, 1/16/11, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote: . There was an interesting article entitled "Pan, Aristaeus, Priapus" which for me confirms that Silk a clone of Typ…
17 Jan 2011, 01:20
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I guess I really don't understand where some of you are coming from. All right, let me just say that do you really think the details in the dream sequences like this have no direc…
16 Jan 2011, 21:09
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Interesting I will need to keep this in mind. And yes, this certainly certainly hurts Mamelta as Kypris. Need to see if there is ever a solid description of her. In any case, I c…
16 Jan 2011, 20:44
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--- On Sun, 1/16/11, Gerry Quinn <gerryq at indigo.ie> wrote: . Remora wanted to Nothing to figure out there, it says the ship over-ruled him. "It was not until three days later …
16 Jan 2011, 17:40
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I thought he saved him obliquely, or tried to, in Urth of the New Sun, doesn't he? Or did he show up too late? I have a very poor memory of Uth, though. The laugh and the commen…
16 Jan 2011, 17:24
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Well, its always been my general style to note confusing or ambiguous things when I read Wolfe, and see if they ever become clearer. There are a few things I noted doubt but can't…
16 Jan 2011, 16:02
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And I DO think Pas wanted an heir to rule on Urth after him, with Silk to rule Green/Urth, and some of his family in the cargo shot into the future. Thus Quetzal aiming for Green.…
16 Jan 2011, 05:05
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And as far as the Outsider endorsing the Plan of Pas, I really do feel that that first enlightenment of "clockwork" had a biological cause, but that of course Pas being mostly eras…
16 Jan 2011, 02:15
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Roy, you are quite right, a few people in viron and elsewhere will have blue eyes. But since we know Silk is a preloaded embryo, unless those people too are grown or woken sleeper…
16 Jan 2011, 01:59
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Chenille was possessed by Kypris, who commonly liked to "ride" the prostitutes, and Hyacinth's hair reminds her of herself, so she likes to ride Hyacinth, and Mamelta is described …
16 Jan 2011, 01:50
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Gerry, one of the things I quoted you dismissed as just Silk being introduced to a new name, I was trying to imply they cast doubts on the validity of Mamelta's clear memories. Ma…
15 Jan 2011, 19:18
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But alas, I feel Wolfe is only a casual Graves fan, with stuff like I Claudius being on his definitely read list (past tense), and the more obscure stuff like King Jesus . . . he n…
15 Jan 2011, 02:14
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Also this, while i look for the quotes where Kypris evades the question about the impossibility of Pas killing her. "Pas, whose Plan the Outsider had endorsed, was dead" ... "The …
14 Jan 2011, 22:39
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any other color would have been insignificant. But blue and black are the same colors as Kypris, and Silk's blue eyes are well documented as rare. p670 of Epiphany: "You don't lo…
14 Jan 2011, 21:09
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Sevs' assertion of distance have to be taken with a grain of salt, its like me telling you DC is thousands of miles away off the top of my head, or that I think the moon is like a …
13 Jan 2011, 22:41
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yeah, i am talking about the end of urth of the new sun, he flies on a notule there too.…
12 Jan 2011, 19:35
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What happens here is he looks up at Lune, doesn't think he falls asleep, then "wakes" up with Lune concealed by those clouds, and when green light comes again a flying flapping hor…
12 Jan 2011, 17:51
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You know what? Its ambiguous I'm sorry, not definitive at all. p 340, chapter XLVIII "I woke and found I was hot and flushed, and that Lune was concealed behind clouds from whic…
12 Jan 2011, 17:45
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It is raining on Lune at the end of New Sun, but that's obvious in a world with trees.…
12 Jan 2011, 16:51
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Last night I was looking through the coming of the New Sun in Urth and it gave me a big headache. Like Roy, I actually prefer to work with the text instead of math or real astronom…
12 Jan 2011, 16:47
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yes, in general, the obvious conclusion is that the whole book is taking place in the present when sev is just about to start his journey, but my convuluted reading requires that p…
12 Jan 2011, 03:37
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Sorry Jeff I am ignorant, I will have to try to look it up. I only watch boxing on TV, can't usually sit through movies of any kind, these kinds of references might be lost on me.…
11 Jan 2011, 20:02
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--- On Tue, 1/11/11, Adam Thornton <adam at io.com> wrote: He's not fat! I mean....not if he's a reliable narrator...uh oh. “Now I'm thinking of a shirtless Vegas Elvis. ?Tha…
11 Jan 2011, 19:58
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THIS right here is what I am getting at for the end of Urth of the new Sun. The huge tides that cause flooding, Apheta looking down from lune, is this just a big cosmic planetary …
11 Jan 2011, 19:23
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Then the domes would have to be green, no? Or invisible so that the trees are visible from Urth? It being green implies some sort of atmosphere to me. --- On Tue, 1/11/11, Jeff …
11 Jan 2011, 19:12
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yes, but the Lune of Severian's time is bigger, closer, and has an atmosphere. Is it still the moon?…
11 Jan 2011, 19:09
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it should be. I guess. this planetary quick switch gives me a headache. Apheta looking down from Lune, it having trees, Rudesind's comments, the flooding, Heiro's popping planet…
11 Jan 2011, 19:03
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It matters if the Whorl is a hollowed out lune.…
11 Jan 2011, 18:53
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Well, Lune is a problem. There are two or three things that keep coming back to haunt me. One is Apheta peering down from Lune, the other is its change to verdancy and Rudesind's…
11 Jan 2011, 18:12
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The rules of astral travel as stated in the text - that someone had either been there at the time or be thinking about it specifically. There was no thought of Blue the first time…
11 Jan 2011, 15:35
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sigh ... I sent Gene a christmas card with eyes in a tree, a long haired man with a staff which I drew a face on, and a letter that pretty much said where I was interpretationally…
11 Jan 2011, 04:24
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The principal struck me then, such that I recoiled as if struck by Ferrous Mike, that the conciliator himself might be posting here unknown, and his divine theories completely igno…
10 Jan 2011, 21:14
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I do agree with one point, and that is that Wolfe often does do plain straightforward stuff like the quote above but somehow makes it exceedingly ambiguous, such that it is mention…
10 Jan 2011, 21:04
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--- On Mon, 1/10/11, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net> wrote: (Usually You know, this is almost exactly what he says about the huge footsteps down in the man ape/monke…
10 Jan 2011, 15:30
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prerecorded.…
08 Jan 2011, 22:36
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I think viewing the whorl as a closed system created by Typhon for his own self-aggrandizement as demiurge is somewhat accurate, but there are several "divine" desires that are imp…
08 Jan 2011, 15:58
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Just really quickly, I think Wolfe does this in Long Sun, especially with regards to Crane's lame physical cause to Silk's original enlightenment, which seems like such a dumb idea…
07 Jan 2011, 19:00
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This blue bar I have when quoting you won't let me write under it, otherwise I most assuredly would. I feel doomed forever to be a top poster, in bad taste. But in regards to the …
06 Jan 2011, 20:24
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And every work of Wolfe brings its own different form of ambiguity - in New Sun, ambiguous descriptions like "he was the smallest of those dead" just can't be captured in film with…
04 Jan 2011, 19:14
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Gerry says, in regard to a 15 pound carcass: "Because Wolfe's editor was sleeping on the job." Once upon a time there was a line in wizardknight, that was something like "Garsceg …
04 Jan 2011, 15:20
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Argh, nobody called me out on my blatant apophasis here. Have it your way! when I wrote: ?is not part of a "theory" so hopefully ... .... ... ?Severian was paid in counterfeit …
03 Jan 2011, 23:25
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Wanted to see if anyone was prepared to discuss something symbolic and its connotations, and this is not part of a "theory" so hopefully it won't engender something atrocious. Vod…
03 Jan 2011, 15:35
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Have to comment on one of Jerry's examples. Since you mentioned the Amber books, that putting aside the throne is a vital step in?Corwin's maturation. Even when stripped of memory…
03 Jan 2011, 15:06
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Thanks for the link Daniel. I love the Japanese covers, and there is one from Long Sun with a glowing thing in a courtyard that looks pretty sweet, as well as (is that german?) a c…
01 Jan 2011, 20:15
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Fair enough, Roy, just wondering if we agreed on anything that was not explicit in the text. I won't go over it again with you, but it explains a lot of the narrative shifts for m…
01 Jan 2011, 18:08
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