Posted from 5 addresses as Marc Aramini, maa32, aramini1, marcaramini, A Aramini, Marc A Aramini, Marc
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Yes, it isn't from the lab now, and I'm not sure if it ever was, BUT I do think it is instant recombination (ie - where Neighbor Horn comes from, the munching of and recombination …
31 Dec 2010, 23:30
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I just find it odd that his two certainties include this strange sentience coming to vegetation in light of the Green Man and the life on Green. I think its more than a throwaway d…
31 Dec 2010, 20:01
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Roy, I don't want you to leave the list over this stuff, but I do want to hear your opinion on something. Do you or do you not agree that it is likely that Horn winds up in Babbi…
31 Dec 2010, 19:58
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You are right Jordan. That line about the miraculous light coming was just a daydream. How can that be used as evidence for the new sun? --- On Fri, 12/31/10, Jordon Flato <jordo…
31 Dec 2010, 19:23
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Witz, hybridization is instant speciation, which is why its such an important theme in the first chapter of OBW, almost no time at all has to pass. --- On Fri, 12/31/10, Son of Wi…
31 Dec 2010, 19:19
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Anybody ever notice any planetary statements in Empires of Foliage and Flower? Need to go over that again I guess. Oh, Father Thyme :(…
31 Dec 2010, 16:09
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Let me get all your rebuttals in order, because I feel like we just argue in circles and circles. 1) The vegetation and life are too different. - I think vegetative evolution and …
31 Dec 2010, 15:55
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Roy, if Green is Urth, the Neighbors are what people become, I think. That's all. You know, the "Vanished People". Is that such an impossible asssertion? --- On Fri, 12/31/10, Le…
31 Dec 2010, 15:41
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yeah, but why have Tzadkiel enact a passion there?? Hmm. --- On Thu, 12/30/10, Jordon Flato <jordonflatourth at gmail.com> wrote: Well, I don't think that is really a Trial per…
30 Dec 2010, 20:00
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My problem with Severian as the Epitome of Man is the Trial itself, where Zak/ a part of Tzadkiel stands in for him pretty much carrying a cross. Sev doesn't really seem to go on t…
30 Dec 2010, 19:43
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Or, Jordan, as is commonly supposed, the creation story of the bible is an amalgamation of at least two different sources, one of which is babylonian (ie - its just a retelling of …
30 Dec 2010, 18:23
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The manuscript page was? In Greens Jungles p 339. I looked on that page in the book and suddenly I realized maybe he was pointing my attention to that page in the published book in…
30 Dec 2010, 18:16
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He just gives up one eye, so Pig can upload Silk to Mainframe or back to Silk's body, who still has an eye left. that's how Horn gets Silk back, I think, now that I consider the 3…
30 Dec 2010, 16:28
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Gerry, I have to comment on this whole mess. i was in contact with Wolfe very frequently at about that time when the light started to turn on for Short Sun for me in 2002, and I se…
30 Dec 2010, 16:26
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Lee, I don't think Roy is a skeptic. His encyclopedic knowledge of every Gene Wolfe text reminds me way more of a biblical fundamentalist. He knows his Wolfe, he just doesn't allow…
30 Dec 2010, 15:53
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Flipping through Short Sun haphazardly last night, noticed two things: pretty sure that the 3rd person of RTTW are mostly Horn in that body, and the chapter HE IS SILK refers to Pi…
30 Dec 2010, 15:38
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But in the original, the ark was played by the ship that Severian went to Yesod on, the sailors who survived where dropped back off, no? This would be a retcon, a multiple ark stor…
29 Dec 2010, 15:57
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But it is possible that later, when he had written Urth, Wolfe thought, oh, wait, my purifying flood needs an ark to preserve humanity, who will come back after the deluge is gone …
29 Dec 2010, 15:55
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See, this Green is Urth thing is a messy messy can of worms for some reason given what we don't really understand about Silk's powers. Sorry, my fault. The implications are chaotic…
28 Dec 2010, 19:24
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Doesn't one of the inhuma say, we are here, we are everywhere, on Urth I think in RttW, or am I misremembering? --- It…
28 Dec 2010, 19:10
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Well, I don't know what to make of Blue, if it isn't the terraformed Lune or a transplanted Yesod (or was Urth transplanted? I don't have a good explanation) but I am pretty sure B…
28 Dec 2010, 07:30
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Thanks Jeff. Wow, I don't know what to do with those quotes, but I feel like they are important, very important to understanding what happened to Lune. "Time runs as we ask here, a…
27 Dec 2010, 23:32
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Yes, the question of what exactly Blue is remains a big problem of understanding what happened when the New Sun came, why there is a city there underwater, maybe even what caused t…
27 Dec 2010, 17:55
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Let me just defend something really quickly, and then I want to move on to more fruitful discussions, because I am a bit taken aback by the consistency of throwing away ambiguous s…
27 Dec 2010, 15:28
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yeah I remembered that but what EXACTLY is an asteroid? It's in orbit around the sun. Not sure the difference between the classification of a satellite and an asteroid except perha…
26 Dec 2010, 20:42
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I said that the people don't know where they are, and here is enough proof for me. This is from the first time Silk goes to Urth in IGJ. "I don't understand any of this, Father."…
26 Dec 2010, 19:08
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Its not an easy answer, but lets luck at the evidence for and against without bias. There is a huge city on Green that is compared to Nessus several times, the story the Neighbo…
26 Dec 2010, 16:22
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Well, as far as the interviews go, I think sometimes Wolfe is more open than others. I agree, Jordan rubbed him the right way as someone whose world view Wolfe respected, Gevers ju…
25 Dec 2010, 23:51
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sorry about that egregious spelling error. Of course I meant correct, right, etc. Embarassing. Marc…
24 Dec 2010, 19:20
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Roy, one more thing before I wish everybody a happy holiday. I believe we are given visual data that the narrator misinterprets that we are supposed to interpret correctly. "Ther…
24 Dec 2010, 19:18
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I know, I know Roy. I just think obfuscation of location is one of Wolfe's themes this time, and these characters writing those quotes?DO NOT KNOW WHERE THEY ARE, just like Weer do…
24 Dec 2010, 18:48
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Thanks Antonio. I just feel like the huge evidence of sentient recombinatory hybridizing tree life is more than an echo of the Green Man future, and that the theme of the book is o…
23 Dec 2010, 19:38
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Gerry, I am only going to include the parts of the quote I find especially interesting. Yes, it is far away, But is that distance in time? Why is this whorl called ancient, and thi…
23 Dec 2010, 19:32
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Antonio, I acknoledge that the rules are clearly spelled out in the introduction to my full theory, which James Wynn provided the link to early. Here is the first paragraph of my e…
22 Dec 2010, 18:10
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Now, Lee, this mention of Formalhaut, the Fish's Mouth, the first compelling evidence I have seen that in fact?Green/Blue is not just Urth/Lune substitute from Yesod, with the last…
22 Dec 2010, 15:06
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Cool I definitely buy that and need to pay attention to it next time through!? It always just seemed so random and sad :(. Thanks!? Marc --- On Tue, 12/21/10, Lee Berman <severia…
22 Dec 2010, 03:05
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my reply to this snippet below ?from Gerry (I would respond on the bottom but can't get rid of the quoting line for some reason, everything I type looks like a continuation of his …
21 Dec 2010, 22:49
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All right Gerry. But it you have to admit it outright SAYS in the text she is. And it says Pas "wants an heir" that is worthy, that's the whole underlying struggle in mainframe. Th…
21 Dec 2010, 20:41
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Well, Gerry, this depends how much credence you put in dreams and throw away comments in the text. Here are some quotes that outright say Kypris is Mamelta, and I infer that Kypris…
21 Dec 2010, 15:15
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Mostly this is a quick response to James Wynn about vines as the natural base state of the inhumi when they don't have blood to feed on - we both agree Dionysus is an important sym…
21 Dec 2010, 15:00
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Lee, just wanted to point out that in the snipets I quoted below, as far as New Sun is concerned, it is very hard to look beneath to see anything beneficial or benevolent in Typhon…
21 Dec 2010, 14:43
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witz, I thought you might like this description of a sketch I had on my 9th grade english text book way back in ... 1991 or something. Too bad I don't have a picture of it. What at…
21 Dec 2010, 00:03
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Sorry to keep responding, but didn't Tussah BUY the embryo??Wasn't that one of the scandals of his reign??That's why I don't think he is Typhon, but just Silk's adopted father or p…
20 Dec 2010, 20:00
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And this is why I wasn't getting much out of the list for a few years, to be honest. A big mystery in the text: Sev hangs out all the time in a mausoleum where he sees his face cl…
20 Dec 2010, 19:53
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So I just wanted to make the point his step sister would be Chenille, not a real sister or clone sister or anything like that. So I don't think Tussah was Typhon, but I do think Si…
20 Dec 2010, 19:46
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I interpret this as a cheating ADOPTED parents answer by wolfe - his mother was the calde's mistress, that's why she kept his bust in the closet. Silk has two sets of parents, Tuss…
20 Dec 2010, 19:44
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Yes, I think it is the demiurge again enacting his plan. The male and female voice are Typhon and his mistress whispering words of love to their zygote child, superman I style, but…
20 Dec 2010, 19:34
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And even though I don't necessarily buy New Sun as an entirely gnostic system, the whorl of Long Sun IS. The demiurge Typhon populates it with his religion, his family, his decepti…
20 Dec 2010, 19:29
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Haven't posted in a long long time because of all the huge resistance to almost every aspect of my interpretation of Short Sun, but I will attempt to respond to James' statement th…
20 Dec 2010, 18:54
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All right, I was just sitting here and suddenly it struck me WHY the alternating chapters are 3rd person in RttW from an interpretive perspective. The narrator of OBW is Silkhorn i…
20 Dec 2010, 16:36
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