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I have to quibble with the Gnostic view of the cosmology of TWK that hartshorn and others have championed. I don't see it that way because I don't think it satisfies the most impor…
15 Dec 2005, 09:03
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That's the answer I was looking for and the direction I wanted to take this thread. People seem to accept the idea that the inhabitants of Kleos are in fact angels of one stripe or…
13 Dec 2005, 06:56
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I took the bit about humans being "raised" up from animals as just a nod to Darwin. As for this upward evolution of humans and Aelf ever nearer to the High God that you propose, i…
10 Dec 2005, 20:56
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In my previous post I forgot to mention that the "servants" of God in Kleos had his ear, but those who went down to Skai to kill Ymir no longer had it. This forced the latter to pe…
10 Dec 2005, 09:57
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It would surprise the hell out of me for Able to even get to Kleos, much less be a hero there. As hartshorn said in another context, Able is a knight not a saint. Just who would a …
07 Dec 2005, 20:52
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I'm not offended in the least; I doubt that anyone here is. -Roy…
07 Dec 2005, 07:36
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Uri and Baki *should* have been gods to Garsecg, but the worship seems to have gone the other way. Btw, if the Aelf had little (if any) hope of sanguinary salvation, the dragons we…
07 Dec 2005, 07:31
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Last month I wrote: [snip] That can't be right. There's no place up for him to go but Kleos. Able's association with Michael is not enough to get him to Kleos. Able wrote from Ael…
07 Dec 2005, 05:09
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I've said as much, twice, including the first post in this thread. But Disiri's lot is unique; the rest of the Aelf remain soulless. Her uniqueness is furthered by the fact that Ab…
06 Dec 2005, 19:45
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It was not my deduction that the Aelf have no eternal existence; it's a textual given. In the scene where Toug healed Baki, Able said the Aelf were long-lived, and goes on to say: …
05 Dec 2005, 18:44
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won't [snip] [snip] Again, I overlooked the obvious. Able said, when he was speaking to Leort about Disiri and indirectly about his time in Skai, "it's where she can never go."…
05 Dec 2005, 07:59
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I've about exhausted this topic, but wanted to make one more observation. Able, while still a stripling, didn't like the way he was treated by Svon. The clash of personalities lea…
03 Dec 2005, 17:59
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You are, of course, quite right. And I was staring right at the title of the story and didn't realize the obvious. But what was Able's point in telling Leort the story? And how di…
01 Dec 2005, 20:10
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Able's original shield was plain green. He doesn't actually use the designation "Green Knight" when he relates his little story to Leort, but that's clearly the story. And Able doe…
01 Dec 2005, 09:17
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Able lost a wrestling match with an ogre, not a real fight; he elected to use no weapons. I don't know why Org wanted to stay around Able, unless he was feeling grateful for Able h…
01 Dec 2005, 08:56
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Very thoughtful, James. I quite agree. [snip] I wonder how well TWK actually sold, and if there was a significant drop in sales of the second book relative to the first. If I we…
01 Dec 2005, 02:30
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My point, above, was to establish that "Trial by Combat" was, indeed, incorporated into TWK. See below. I don't know whether or not Able believed in the doctrine of might makes ri…
01 Dec 2005, 02:26
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The captain did not believe that Able was a knight, and said so. (K, 109) Able retorted, "You'd be smart to act as if you had [heard of him]." That is a not very subtle threat. The…
28 Nov 2005, 08:51
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Correct. Page 56. He also says that his "authority" is now of Skai, not Mythgarthr. -Roy…
28 Nov 2005, 08:50
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***************************** "Oh, you Overcyns! Get up, please. I didn't mean to keep you kneeling in the snow. Rise." I did, and her soft hand found mine. "I feel you're …
27 Nov 2005, 20:21
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When Art made his vow to defend that pass, he was an overgrown kid. What complicates matters is the fact that when he actually undertook the defenses he was twenty years older, had…
27 Nov 2005, 08:24
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The title of Chapter 32 of WIZARD is, "Trial By Arms". From page 386, Able speaking first: ********************* "You have to let me do this, Your Majesty. I've worn your favor…
27 Nov 2005, 08:21
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The text immediately continues: "I said no. 'I won't wait for them. How long before we get to port?'" Note that Able said that he wouldn't wait because he was determined to im…
26 Nov 2005, 08:46
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People seem to be too hung up on the poor horses. That wasn't my point. Let's forget the horses and take another example of Able's unconscionable behavior, one that Wolfe spent far…
24 Nov 2005, 08:05
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Ah, but that flies in the face of the very basis of the concept of "trial by combat" in all its variations. From Lancelot's defense of Guinevere to all those childish, petulant, in…
23 Nov 2005, 08:04
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When Old One Eye appeared to Idnn, he promised her a place at his table in Skai in exchange for her service to him. (W, 235) I should probably leave aside the fact that she had don…
11 Nov 2005, 06:37
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Though I come from the opposite end of the religious spectrum, I quite agree with you, at least about that last statement. Something akin to grace is the only way to account for th…
27 Oct 2005, 07:20
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21 Oct 2005, 16:46
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Andrew wrote: [snip] It occurs to me that, *if* Jahlee was imprinted with Chenille's spirit (due to her mother having fed on Chenille on Green), and if Jahlee went to Blue to feed…
22 Aug 2005, 09:09
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Oh, I was referring to your speculations about "Why would going to Blue to prey on humans meet a need to become more human-like?" And Jahlee's "day-dreams of returning to the towe…
18 Aug 2005, 20:58
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An objection I have is her presumed imprinting with Chenille's spirit. I don't think her mother(?) fed on Chenille on the _Whorl_. [snip] Jahlee expressed similar sentiments on h…
17 Aug 2005, 23:36
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But it's just a dream and can't be taken at face value. Silkhorn also saw Sinew wearing a ring in that dream that I don't think had really been there. Silkhorn's subconscious is at…
17 Aug 2005, 22:13
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His No, I think I jumped to an unwarranted conclusion. Horn's lander(s) left the _Whorl_ just days after Auk's. If Andrew is anywhere near right about a conjunction in or about Bl…
17 Aug 2005, 22:12
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[snip] Well, well, we three seem to be in agreement that Jahlee didn't get to Blue unaided when she was very young. Do you also agree, Andrew, that she traveled by lander between …
16 Aug 2005, 22:46
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I still think the answer is that she traveled on a lander. But, on reflection, that 2-3 year window of opportunity has to be even smaller. If Jahlee was in fact imprinted with the …
15 Aug 2005, 23:28
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Thalassocrat wrote: [snip] Is it just coincidence that Q's attainment of office more or less coincided with the death of Pas? I doubt it. I'm not implying cause and effect, just n…
13 Aug 2005, 23:43
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No, James. No. Two rooms are involved. The hall (also called the foyer by Marble), which contained a landscape by Murtagon, the "gorgeous room full of lounging soldiers". And the d…
13 Aug 2005, 10:17
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Okay, you're right about the point of first contact between Neighbors and humans having occurred shortly before the _Whorl_ reached orbit. And I do believe that that *was* the firs…
12 Aug 2005, 23:46
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No, it isn't different in any edition. There are two rooms in question here, the one "full of lounging soldiers and armored men" and the room where the meeting was held and Blood d…
12 Aug 2005, 13:02
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Yes, the Neighbors took inhumi to the _Whorl_. But I don't think they studied humans for a "long time". Just for the time (beginning thirty-something years before the exodus?) the …
11 Aug 2005, 23:29
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Thalassocrat wrote: [snip] I don't know if the Neighbors were involved or not, but I have been inexcusably forgetful -- I had just read the passage the other day! Of course Jahlee…
11 Aug 2005, 14:39
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Maybe. But I have the feeling I'm missing something. Silkhorn even asked her, in so many words, if her first visit to that room had been made before her first trip to Blue. "She di…
10 Aug 2005, 23:33
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Jahlee came to Blue at least twice. The fact that she fed on infant Sinew and was mother to Krait is sufficient proof of that. She had to return to Green to spawn, then came back t…
10 Aug 2005, 14:23
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Iirc, Chenille was drunk only once in the seven volumes. That was when she and Silk went to Lake Limna. They had separated, with Silk going out to the shrine. It was Auk who later …
06 Aug 2005, 23:58
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Maybe it's because you're reading it piecemeal on amazon; I don't know. But I'm reading the text from the book. You have the sequence of events a little out of order. The two piece…
04 Aug 2005, 22:37
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Ah, David, I see that you have preceded me. My apologies. Crush quoted: There is another line of text immediately following the word "before" in the above quote that starts a new…
04 Aug 2005, 11:45
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Before -- or if -- I respond further, and I probably shouldn't do this because I don't believe your interpretation in the least, I will point out that you have put a needless obsta…
03 Aug 2005, 22:04
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He had sex alright; he bragged to Horn about it while on the roof of the airship: ************************************* "I won't ask if you've lain with a woman, Horn; it's too per…
03 Aug 2005, 12:17
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What continuous action? He also described himself and Hide and Oreb in the present tense a few pages earlier. And Oreb still looked just like a night chough, "smaller than a hen", …
02 Aug 2005, 22:31
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I'm not following you. Mint's hair was cut short, like a nun's, to deliberately look unattractive to men. Hy was doing the opposite. The exact quote from Kypris is: "I was there la…
02 Aug 2005, 13:05