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So can we agree, at least, that the cloak and the robe are metaphors and not just habits as such? ...ryan…
30 Jul 2010, 17:00
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REMIX: The Book of the New Sun is an epic journey following an exiled torturer with a photographic memory named Severian as he becomes king of the world and reignites the sun. On…
30 Jul 2010, 16:58
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I have what I need to sell my mini-series to HBO after all! I was going to roll with: "Imagine J.R.R. Tolkien and Philip K. Dick having a heart-to-heart with David Lynch." but y…
30 Jul 2010, 16:49
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Lee, Aren't we supposed to get the vibe that "the power was in Severian all the time, he just didn't know it?" Meaning pharmacon or not, claw or not, he had these powers. I thoug…
30 Jul 2010, 16:43
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Right, and in that sense, I can sort of hear Will Smith at the end of this journey, putting on the argent robe and saying something like: "We 'bout to change the sun, yo!" I can …
30 Jul 2010, 16:36
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The journeymen's boots mayhap? ...ryan…
30 Jul 2010, 12:35
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Doesn't the cumaen shed her face at some point to show the reptilian mask beneath? Isn't the Cumaen a cacogens also? Severian compares Inire to her if I recall. Also, the way Wolf…
29 Jul 2010, 20:14
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is it definitely a catamite? or is that theoretical as well? ...ryan…
28 Jul 2010, 19:36
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So an immortal cacogen, or able to grow to thousands of years old? It is thought he has been viziers to all autarchs past, no? Isn't time traveling just as viable in a microcosm bu…
27 Jul 2010, 17:36
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MORE PROOF INIRE IS RUDESIND'S MASTER: "The old Autarch told us you were his sentinel in the House Absolute, and now we know you're a servant of Father Inire's." "I am," the old m…
27 Jul 2010, 17:30
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INIRE AS RUDESIND'S MASTER: "Rudesind, we already know the answers to the question you think we are going to ask. We know your master is what the people call a cacogen, and that f…
27 Jul 2010, 17:27
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I still don't know why that specifically is what Severian would ask? Why not, hey clean up the moon guy, i like that picture. Or, hey, if you see that Racho dweeb, give him a kick …
27 Jul 2010, 17:02
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I don't buy it. Severian and Inire walk the corridors of time, so I think he is laying the seeds for a time loop. Perhaps Rudesind, like the botanic, the mirrors, and the atrium of…
27 Jul 2010, 16:46
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Why would Severian ask Rudesind to do that? Why would that be all he asks of Rudesind before dismissing him? And after the diatribe about how Severian is: "every boy that's ever be…
27 Jul 2010, 16:13
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No, the two Severians seems fairly obvious to me. In the Atrium of Time, he overlaps himself in two times, from what I gathered. Here is what Severian as Autarch asks of Rudesind..…
27 Jul 2010, 15:34
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That would make me a girl owl? Headwig the Headless? Not okay. ...ryan…
27 Jul 2010, 15:20
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There is another line of thought that by Rudesind calling it "your blue Urth," he may be foreshadowing that Severian will soon rule the world itself. Just a thought. It would mean…
27 Jul 2010, 15:06
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Possibly, though Severian seems to identify Inire as an individual on more than one occasion, calling him one of his few friends on Urth. I think there's something to the theory o…
27 Jul 2010, 14:30
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I am also the less-turrets version of Josh, though. That would connect you two. Is that okay? I am also Dan'l's grandmother come again... as a man. ...ryan…
27 Jul 2010, 14:20
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Monkey descriptions (those hand-like feet and apelike mannerisms) and a clear detachment from "your Urth," makes the idea of Inire's curators as clones or cacogens quite tempting. …
27 Jul 2010, 13:52
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...is another teenager's lifetime of sexual oppression. ...ryan…
22 Jul 2010, 03:43
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He sure knows surprisingly well how to initiate fellatio from the false Thecla in House Azure. Just sayin'. ...ryan…
22 Jul 2010, 03:25
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Interesting. I can think of at least one other disembodied voices, in the Atrium of Time. Anywhere else? ...ryan…
13 Jul 2010, 21:08
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The Doctor Island project seems to have been abandoned, forgotten, or to have fallen apart. It has been in the same stage of development for five years. ...ryan…
13 Jul 2010, 18:24
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I'd like to solve the puzzle, Pat. I mean buy a vowel. No wait... ...ryan…
13 Jul 2010, 15:42
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Fascinating. I only wish Fr. Inire to Fenrir was a true anagram. F E N R I R F R I N I R E One too many I's, unless we get epically poetic: I, Fenrir or we get back to origin…
13 Jul 2010, 14:59
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I've always assumed it's pronounced: FAH-thur in-AYr (aka father-in-ire) no? ...ryan…
13 Jul 2010, 01:20
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I'm not sure how serious I was when I suggested Inire's name may be anagrammatic, but it's interesting for sure. ...ryan…
10 Jul 2010, 22:00
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Maybe FI is actually a permutation of another word/phrase... Father in Ire Inherit Fear Fire in Earth Fainter Heir In Their Fear I dunno. Just a thought? ...ryan…
10 Jul 2010, 02:06
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Oh, and I always liked this quote from the book, guess who said it... "Look at the great successes of the past - they say their deities are the masters of all the universes, and y…
09 Jul 2010, 23:38
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I've read BotNS twice through, and am on a third scouring, non-linear, clue hunting, note-taking. I came to the grandma Dorcas without much effort, which is saying alot if you've r…
09 Jul 2010, 23:34
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Could the elderly person in Casdoe's house be an aquastor? ...ryan…
09 Jul 2010, 17:12
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Adding some passages to this centralization of monkeydom... RUDESIND: "When I admitted I did not, he scrambled down from the ladder like an aged monkey, seeming all arms and legs…
09 Jul 2010, 05:19
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I probably do. And it still doesn't sound right to me. I'd rather be run over by a wheeled cart and trampled to death. ...ryan…
08 Jul 2010, 15:27
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You mean besides siamese plantar warts? I think I have a good guess. ...ryan…
08 Jul 2010, 15:22
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The two apricots? That never sounded right to me. ...ryan…
08 Jul 2010, 15:11
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What happens if I agree with both of you? Will I spontaneously combust, or worse? ...ryan…
08 Jul 2010, 14:51
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It wasn't my approach. Mine is simpler, and more benign... I was hoping to glean some insight from this knowledgable group as to my suspicion about a potentially overlooked passag…
08 Jul 2010, 12:34
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Not if he needs a human Autarch to enter the White Fountain with the proper belief in himself and the things he has done. If I read Severian's memoir as though he is naive to Inir…
08 Jul 2010, 12:30
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David, I want to add that my experience with BotNS is that the whole journey is caught in a time loop of sorts. Not exactly, but what we are witnessing is the journey of Severian,…
08 Jul 2010, 06:26
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To change tacts here... Is it possible Rudesind was intentionally steering Severian away from the Reading Room? Is the Book of Gold in there? What would happen if Severian found i…
08 Jul 2010, 05:44
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I think you've summarized what I've felt about Wolfe for some time. The first reading (if you've read him before) you are on high alert, and analyzing everything. This usually lead…
08 Jul 2010, 05:01
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Allow me to defend myself here. I am finding puzzle pieces and asking someone to help me solve it. I do deem them to be puzzle pieces, though, before I serve them to this group. M…
08 Jul 2010, 04:55
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Half baked? And it required a Wolfe confirmation to accept Grandma Dorcas? Man, that one seemed pretty obvious from my first reading. And the confirmation actually instills hope th…
07 Jul 2010, 21:53
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Exactly, or Ouen being her son, or a boatman looking for 'Cas. Or FBO going backwards in time only to keep meeting Severian as if by chance? ...ryan…
07 Jul 2010, 21:18
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Could one also have the head of a dog and the body of an ape like the creature watching Severian when he wakes in the Lazaret in SotT? ...ryan…
07 Jul 2010, 20:32
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Timon? ...ryan…
07 Jul 2010, 20:27
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I'm not letting go of that monkey description, sorry. It is a clue to something. ...ryan…
07 Jul 2010, 20:14
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his drowning in gyoll? or avern battle? or somewhere else? ...ryan…
07 Jul 2010, 19:23
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We've been duped. ...ryan…
07 Jul 2010, 19:13
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