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Oh man, I can't even TRY to puzzle that one out. She IS a poppet candidate, though, I guess (?). We would have to introduce time traveling or something into the equation, since th…
21 Jun 2010, 04:14
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Correct, David. Here were the two passages that definitely indicated Agia was of some type of Asian descent (to me, anyhow)... . "With her upturned nose and strangely tilted eye…
20 Jun 2010, 01:02
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... and with those "strangely tilted eyes." A remnant of her former paracoital genicon self? :) ...ryan…
19 Jun 2010, 22:52
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Except for the fact that Hethor reportedly visited Agia and Agilus at the rag shop BEFORE Hethor meets Severian, at which point he has his rant about his missing genicon. ...ryan…
19 Jun 2010, 16:08
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Fair enough, though who did they use when Hethor had her in his box? Or are you not actually implying that the humanoid puppet employed to play Katharine is actually the SAME sex t…
19 Jun 2010, 16:07
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And yet, her name's etymology indicates "holy". Wolfe is having fun with this. She has a fallen angel quality. And back to the idea of coming from Quasar with Hethor, she literally…
19 Jun 2010, 14:28
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Maybe we should look back through Borges' "Book of Imaginary Beings". Wolfe has stolen more than one creature from this text and used it BotNS. ...ryan…
19 Jun 2010, 05:11
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Aww... you're spoiling all the fun! As for Hethor, I'd think he'd want a lighter sex bot (genicon, he says) than a chem while frolicking in bed. Someone he could overpower easily,…
19 Jun 2010, 05:00
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Man that's deep. But I found myself nodding a lot. Another consideration... If she is the escapee, it makes perfect sense for her to want to change her identity, in case Hetho…
19 Jun 2010, 02:47
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Agilus is the obvious suspect here. The one who obsesses over Jovinian steel. The one whose image she has assumed. The problem is just the misdirect with Hethor coming to their rag…
19 Jun 2010, 00:32
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You know, Agia does have a knack for bending people to her will, whether that be Severian, Hethor, the Vodalani, etc. The aureole suggests something holy, perhaps a symbolic moment…
18 Jun 2010, 22:32
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Okay, I think we're on the same page. If we agree, than there IS a woman on the loose in BotNS, who is a robot. Otherwise, I don't think Wolfe would have given us SO MUCH descript…
18 Jun 2010, 19:41
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Let me try this from a different angle. The amount of detail and description Hethor (and Severian (and Wolfe)) give regarding this missing poppet obviously feels like the reader sh…
18 Jun 2010, 19:03
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Or did Agilus have something to say about changing her from submissive sex kitten to dominatrix with some manly qualities? And perhaps (or instead) this was motivated by getting b…
18 Jun 2010, 18:08
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Hmm... I can't help but think that he was explaining the difference between Agia and other women in this passage. And that the strength of her blow sort of sealed the deal for him…
18 Jun 2010, 16:50
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So, going with this logic. Where does Agilus come into play. Did she alter her appearance to match Agia's after she escaped her lemonwood box? ...ryan…
18 Jun 2010, 16:33
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"She was of average height, with a short nose, wide cheekbones, and the elongated brown eyes that often accompany them." . "With her upturned nose and strangely tilted eyes, she …
18 Jun 2010, 15:59
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More evidence to ponder, and arguments to make for both sides of the argument of whather Agia was brought from the Quasar where she waited in a Lemonwood box without sleeping. Does…
18 Jun 2010, 15:44
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I guess it just sounds much less slavish how she knows Hethor, whereas he describes her as a sex slave in a lemonwood box who got loose. Could go either way, since his toy HAS gon…
18 Jun 2010, 15:31
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You know, you're probably right. Unless I missed a passage where Agia had irises purple as pansies, I think the paracoita is probably not Agia. Agia also admits she was threatened…
18 Jun 2010, 15:12
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"M-m-master, when I was on the Quasar I had a paracoita, a doll, you see, a genicon, so beautiful with her great pupils as dark as wells, her i- irises purple like asters or pansie…
18 Jun 2010, 14:53
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Well nobody is questioning the fact that Agia was to be with Hethor, right? That is pretty well stated in the text. We're now trying to find out what the eff is up with her tinny …
18 Jun 2010, 14:38
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Is this better, dude? :) To your point about the aureole, the phenomenon may look nice in a kitty photo, but in a religiously charged book where all the protagonists are named aft…
18 Jun 2010, 12:24
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Or what about: Agilus as cacogen (hierodule?), and Agia as robot clone. Also, have you guys already discussed what were the runes and strange maplike design she scrawled into the…
18 Jun 2010, 05:34
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Could explain her single-mindedness and the lengths she went to. She IS responsible for much of Severian's story arc early in the story, no? ...ryan…
17 Jun 2010, 18:01
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Well I was using actual description here rather than the inference of omnipresent incest. There's a ribbon visible on the side of Agilus's face like the one with the skull mas…
17 Jun 2010, 16:31
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Yes. And he made a point to say it made this sound DESPITE her abundant head of hair. I just can't help but wonder, ESP when coupled with Agilus's second mask. Anywho. ...ry…
17 Jun 2010, 16:15
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So I was re-reading Shadow, and noticed something I had previously written off... "I slapped her wrist, perhaps harder than I should, and she flew at me, clawing for my eyes as Th…
17 Jun 2010, 06:54
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I think we should assume Gene Wolfe has considered this, as the Wall is quite a present part of the text, no? Or perhaps I'm reading you wrong. Could be a bit of n00b-itis on my p…
17 Jun 2010, 06:06
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Plenty of monkey references to go around in the books alone. Glad to see it doesn't stop there! RE: my work, thanks I'm flattered. ...ryan…
17 Jun 2010, 05:21
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Sorry, I asked that last question, because I recognized your name from Gene's dedication for An Evil Guest. ...ryan…
17 Jun 2010, 04:17
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Rebecca, I was aware of his surgery, yes. And was thrilled to hear that he came out in good health and good spirits. I'm glad Bobby is in good hands. I plan on sending him a lette…
17 Jun 2010, 04:15
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I guess, in the words of Thecla... "One can't found a novel theology on Nothing, and nothing is so secure a foundation as a contradiction." Big dumb wall, after all? ...ryan…
17 Jun 2010, 03:04
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Forgive me if this hasbeen asked, but was it needed to keep out Typhon? Was it supposed to? What else? Any megatherians want to cause harm? I can't reimagine a scenario where …
16 Jun 2010, 14:21
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Mmm. A sooty drumstick sounds delicious. So does an ice cream drumstick. Sorry to bounce back for a moment here, but... I've always felt the wall, as described in UotNS, was quit…
16 Jun 2010, 05:47
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Hello, My name is Ryan Dunn. I know many of you are long-time participants here on the urth.net mailing list. I am humbled by much of your prowess and breadth of knowledge on thi…
15 Jun 2010, 22:54
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