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Yes, if at any point I've said he is Christ, it was in the spirit of metaphor, just as you might say Inire is Daedalus. It seems like you can do that with anybody but Jesus Christ…
04 Dec 2008, 20:23
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Does Anyone have access? One can serve without understanding. we are all Tools.…
04 Dec 2008, 20:19
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"Do you know the meaning of that word Hierodule you use? I am Malrubius, and no Hierodule. Rather I serve those the Hierodules serve. Hierodule means holy slave. Do you think there…
04 Dec 2008, 20:05
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I don't know much about the different Sects beliefs. so, what happens in the second coming to the non believers? but Jordon just framed it better than I did. and he's right that t…
04 Dec 2008, 20:01
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Surely what I'm suggesting is a very syncretic look at the cosmologies in theologies. I don't think syncretism is the best path for the seeker, but it sure seems to work well for …
04 Dec 2008, 19:57
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sorry. too much coffee. or maybe as a warped reflection, which is more or less what I'm suggesting. As I've said, I'm no theologian, but what does the Apocalypse mean to those le…
04 Dec 2008, 19:51
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yeah, there are certainly no Christological symbols in the Book of the New Sun and Christ is NOT a Solar diety. http://www.spraypaintstencils.com/a-zlistings/3-wise-monkeys-image.…
04 Dec 2008, 19:39
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Fine, but don't misstate what I'm trying to say. I've made it very clear I'm trying to distinguish some principle of Christ abstracted from Jesus. So, are there a lot of other my…
04 Dec 2008, 19:19
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I have said AGAIN, and AGAIN that I'm NOT saying Severian IS JESUS. if you haven't got that, I'm not sure I should bother trying to explain it YET AGAIN. ~witz…
04 Dec 2008, 18:57
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Good gravy! I've never had a work get under my skin like this. maybe I SHOULDN'T read em.…
04 Dec 2008, 18:55
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No, take as many choices as you need to realize that this isn't Science Fact.…
04 Dec 2008, 18:53
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Are these latro books as compelling as New Sun?…
04 Dec 2008, 18:49
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Fair enough. ok, I just ordered Castle of Days which the wolfewiki says contains Castle of the Otter contents. I'll try to refrain until I've read it. ~witz…
04 Dec 2008, 18:48
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No I didn't. "Are we to presume Wolfe has worked this thing out perfectly so that there are no scientific implausibilities" this would be the reason for the lack thereof, that Wol…
04 Dec 2008, 18:38
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I'm not really dismissing it. I can't address it. I have no idea who the Soldier of Arete is.…
04 Dec 2008, 18:32
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I'm with you Dave, especially here: "It's kind of like having a deck of cards celebrating 100,000 years of messiahs, and Number 12 is Jesus." I do take exception to the part abou…
04 Dec 2008, 18:31
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Well, I'd argue, again, that he brings about a sort of Apocatastasis. I'd also argue that those myths your talking about are PROBABLY all talking about the same principle. Horus a…
04 Dec 2008, 18:06
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______________________________________ Last things first, I have no idea what the Soldier of Arete is. It's not in the Urth Cycle, which is the only set of Wolfe books I'm talking…
04 Dec 2008, 17:59
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One detail from the book suggests the possibility of an actual Jesus figure in the history of Urth. The Green Book. Shadow VI: "A green book hardly larger than my hand and no thic…
04 Dec 2008, 17:32
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... Is "Christian Thought" the only reading of the Christian myth? One can stand outside the tradition of the church and still make interpretations of this STORY. It is a fictio…
04 Dec 2008, 17:13
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I suppose you're probably right. ~witz…
04 Dec 2008, 14:59
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Quandrum Gazilliometrics. the standard scale for mindfucks, methinks.…
04 Dec 2008, 07:20
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thanks. I'm more or less familiar with the concepts. I just lose track of the jargon and attributions. ~witz…
04 Dec 2008, 07:16
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Roy, You're right on all counts here, I believe. Do you see any symbolic necessity for this death? I find the Lesson suggestion I made still compelling. but it hangs on wether …
04 Dec 2008, 07:15
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Okay. I think you've swayed me. How long are you suggesting again? I lose track of which ideas link to which account.…
04 Dec 2008, 00:42
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Ok, the text does specify it as rock, and thus I suppose you are right. it couldn't be a landfill. I'm no archaeologist, but isn't the earth a city like UR is found in considered …
04 Dec 2008, 00:15
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I don't see why not. surely in that time there would be enough geographical change for some changes in the mountain ranges. That could have been a Landfill sheared in half by a fau…
03 Dec 2008, 23:24
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Cool, I just thought that out this morning right before typing it out, so it may be a bit muddled. I just posted about that, while you were posting it seems. ah, work calls me.…
03 Dec 2008, 19:25
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The form is what the Heirodules call the Anima, no? the example is of a verse. The Verse would be the Anima, the multiple writings in the dust would be the instances that cancel ea…
03 Dec 2008, 19:04
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Perfect, I love it. I should read that Chabon book. I only read Kavalier and Klay (sp?) which I thought great. ~Witz…
03 Dec 2008, 17:59
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Is Severian's speculation at the end of Citadel to be taken at face value? Citadel 38: "Two things are clear to me. The first is that I am not the first Severian..." Reading the…
03 Dec 2008, 17:54
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It just ain't the same. Hey Roy, no argument that they're not the same stories. I'll spare you my nuance to that though, I think I've typed about it enough for now. Regarding th…
03 Dec 2008, 16:59
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The "potential" was that he would pass the test. It seems the Heiro-dudes seem to think he 'could' fail. according the Ash, there is still quite some time before the sun dies and t…
03 Dec 2008, 16:46
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wait a minute. are we conflating the Severian Apu Punchau & The Sleeper God of Ushas with the Not Necessarily Severian Conciliator. I've thought that since he is the Conciliator…
03 Dec 2008, 06:41
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ha ha. so, he created the Conciliator myth himself, the arrogant bastard. did he do it because he felt it had to be done, or could he not resist being Shaman…
03 Dec 2008, 05:52
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Roy, that helps me so much. thank you. I got a whiff of the Author of V when he mentioned the bower "but I will write for a little while more before I go to my bower to sleep: …
03 Dec 2008, 05:42
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Nice. I enjoy the hair-splitting confusion here, re Eidolon/Aquastor my basic reading of the above quote would make him Aquastor. Eidolon would be the mold any instance, right? th…
03 Dec 2008, 05:35
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We have met the enemy and he is us.…
03 Dec 2008, 01:18
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Hey Friend. Eidolon or Aquastor, I'm not sure I know the difference. One interesting aspect of this is the question of where does consciousness lie? Severian was able to absorb …
03 Dec 2008, 00:02
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This is something that confuses me. having just read that part. My friend suggests he's an Eidolon at this point. But I think he may have died and been resurrected in the very firs…
02 Dec 2008, 20:56
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some sorts o' magic mebee?…
02 Dec 2008, 00:27
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Lol. Well avoided. though he did avoid the fuligin along with it. and yeah, the Floating City is the most "off" thing there I think. I'm just a picky bastard I guess. ~witz…
02 Dec 2008, 00:26
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Did Preuss understand what he read? Seems to have missed the boat in a lot of ways. Obviously he's done a lot of hard work and some of this stuff looks great. But I have lots of…
02 Dec 2008, 00:12
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maybe I'm being dense, but I'm not sure I follow. Time at the stone town is in a magical time. I think The Cumaean mentions that all times become one in the trance state she brings…
01 Dec 2008, 23:59
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"should" are there rules to fiction now? ~witz…
01 Dec 2008, 23:33
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'DOH!!!!…
01 Dec 2008, 23:33
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Isn't it we readers who are projecting "geological change" onto this. (except the part of Urth having cooled, which I don't remember the text source.) Wolfe surely mentions changes…
01 Dec 2008, 23:27
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Yo, but we're talking about a book where the space ships have masts and sails. It need not conform to science.…
01 Dec 2008, 23:25
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I agree with you Matthew. IT's not meant to be hard-sf. (jeez, I'm a relative noob to the SF genre, do writers bother with that sort of thing) In the Lexion, Andre-Driussi point…
01 Dec 2008, 20:48
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I'm with you on max 100,000. I got the text files from a torrent. google "Wolfe sun series torrent" (sans quotes) and you should find a torrent. an audiobooks from Fenopy torre…
01 Dec 2008, 20:20
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