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regarding whether its meaningless to say it's South America is not really countered by plate tectonics. Sure, you might name the reshaped continent something else, but it's more o…
01 Dec 2008, 19:01
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No, Nessus has been moving North, from it's southern origin at the sea. Claw 28: "Dorcas paused, looking up into the trees. "My father said that the city had been creeping northwa…
01 Dec 2008, 18:41
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I'm with you Roy, though I'm COMPELLED to point out that my question about a 'hairy chest' was only relevant to the DRAWINGS I'm making of Severian, not any interpretation of the t…
29 Nov 2008, 18:45
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that's exactly how I feel about it. especially changing the mental/physical conditioning to a sound weapon. lamo. while it's not up to snuff with Wolfe, it's a damn good read. som…
28 Nov 2008, 18:06
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sounds about right. what a shame their Dune never got made. what a glorious mess that would have been. y'all read The Incal? killer stuff. ~m…
27 Nov 2008, 02:34
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Yeah, it's not the same. I agree Wolfe and Joyce are moderns. Bringing up postmodernism, for me, was about the endlessly relative erosion of truth and meaning, and such as you desc…
26 Nov 2008, 23:40
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Is playing a modern game the same as embracing the tenents of postmodernism? One can utilize the insights of a field without really embracing it's (lack of) belief system. Is play…
26 Nov 2008, 22:59
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It sounds great. I was just getting into that part of the article. (distracting myself more than enough today) didn't notice it was Margaret Atwood. I really love the three things …
26 Nov 2008, 21:23
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"hey SonOfWitz, D?rer called and wants his dragon heads back, you hack"…
26 Nov 2008, 19:26
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a bit of brain candy is fine. my candy lately has been 'Savage Sword of Conan' comic reprint collections. ~witz…
26 Nov 2008, 18:49
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Thanks, I'll look that up. Le Guin is on my list of "To-Reads" And Thanks Craig, because your comments have been especially clarifying to me. As I think I've mentioned, I've been …
26 Nov 2008, 18:40
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I can hang with good ideas in poor form. Often, PKD's characters seem like cardboard cutouts, but the ideas blaze through. Cripes, I just read all those Jean Auel books. Some gre…
26 Nov 2008, 18:33
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Fair enough. that seems to be along the lines of what you said about collapsing the priorities of meaning, but not the meaning itself. good stuff.…
26 Nov 2008, 18:21
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Yes. This is how I feel. I don't care much about the moral questions that the Christ issue brings up. Truly. At least it's the highest form our Scientific Materialist culture ca…
26 Nov 2008, 18:20
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that's very interesting. I'd like to read it. now the hunt for a copy. I would guess he's right about Wolfe's formal games being on of Wolfes primary inspirations. It seems a th…
26 Nov 2008, 18:07
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so do any of you actually read this as Severian being merely a dupe and that none of the transcendental themes have their source or resolution in God? and if so, why? Is it that th…
26 Nov 2008, 17:07
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Thats the feeling I got from the bit I read. my guess is that a devout Catholic wouldn't spend his life stacking up Christian symbol dominoes just to knock em all down. except of…
26 Nov 2008, 07:13
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you're surely right. the diabolical forces that mimic the divine part is especially apt. and I suppose surely one could argue that the cosmology is bogus and he is 'just' a dup…
26 Nov 2008, 07:03
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perhaps someone should pointed me to Attending Daedalus by Peter Wright. I just skimmed a bit of it on Google Books, and he's making a thorough dismissal of the type of reading I'm…
26 Nov 2008, 00:49
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I replied to quickly. I hope by that statement I didn't come off like I'm complaining that no one is interested in my beliefs. I'm not. I only meant that no one is here to lear…
26 Nov 2008, 00:22
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Truly.…
26 Nov 2008, 00:15
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This quote from Claw (Chap IV, The Bouquet) directly links The New Sun with the Increate as a Divine Personage. This goes even further than I'd thought in establishing a sort of mu…
26 Nov 2008, 00:13
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Can anyone help me out with this "black hole" thing? I see how it's inferred from the text at one point, when Aquastor Malrubius says: (Citadel, XXXI, Sand Garden) "You know of the…
26 Nov 2008, 00:06
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I see. sorry. I'm feeling a bit defensive I guess. nor me. No one is interested in my beliefs here. Everyone's got an asshole - er - opinion I mean. I see, yes, Wolfe is not …
25 Nov 2008, 23:27
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perhaps you're speaking of me dismissively. I'm not a Christian. I don't believe in Jesus. I don't think he even existed. In fact I've thought my whole life that the Roman Cathol…
25 Nov 2008, 22:44
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having not read LS, I did my best not to read the first part. (but dang I can't wait to sink my teeth in) THANK YOU. that's exactly what I'm saying. (not about monotheism or moral…
25 Nov 2008, 22:24
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man, saturday night, after talking this stuff out with you I think I get the time loop stuff better. just now I was thinking about this: I hadn't really used the "Second Coming…
25 Nov 2008, 06:28
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Thats exactly what I'm trying to do. I just read these books twice and am only getting this on the second read. the more I look at it through this lens, the more I find. if it …
25 Nov 2008, 06:16
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Doesn't it also say the NewSun will defeat Abaia and Erebus. that Juturna 'celebrates' has been discussed as her possible conversion. why not? All humanity is "generalized" (in a …
24 Nov 2008, 23:25
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Wouldn't that "victory over a demonic power" idea be symbolized by the statement (somewhere in there) that the New Sun will destroy the worm in the heart of the old sun? and "judg…
24 Nov 2008, 22:46
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Cripes, I'd heard about that. Good thing I'm so off in the wilderness in this territory that I'm probably a heretic to both.…
24 Nov 2008, 20:15
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Fair enough. We've all met zealous converts. I said the same thing to an Orthodox believer. boy, that was like stepping in Shit. NOT a small matter to them. that small doctrinal c…
24 Nov 2008, 19:56
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Great stuff, John. I can't speak to the heretical question. I'm no where near versed enough. I'd add that the Easter Church views Catholicism ITSELF as a heritical branch of Chris…
24 Nov 2008, 19:39
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Sunday morning I was fried, sort of staring at the bookshelf, and I noticed that "Godel Escher Bach" book-cover Dan'l mentioned. Pondering it, I realized it is very much the perfe…
24 Nov 2008, 18:34
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On that note, I've taken the Torturer's Guild as a sort of Inquisition that's become a more or less secular institution of the State. As if the State absorbed them and graduall…
22 Nov 2008, 19:44
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all interesting points, Jordon, Joe, John, Craig and David. I think they all are valid readings, including mine. I can't speak to any contrast to Silk or Short Sun threads. I fe…
21 Nov 2008, 22:52
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Nice points David. I'll reiterate that I don't think any connection to the historical Jesus is necessary. I'm certainly not talking about Jesus. I'm talking about the energy that…
21 Nov 2008, 21:00
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Better than I said it. ~Witz…
21 Nov 2008, 19:41
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yup. it's all Jordon's fault. nice to see you poke your lurking head out. (tomorrow we'll have our Monomachy shirts) (anyone in SF, Saturday night, Hotel Utah, Orange Tulip Conspir…
21 Nov 2008, 19:10
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Craig, First of all, let me say that I do agree with your ideas here. everything you put works within the confines of the story. I think your reading is valid and apt. however, …
21 Nov 2008, 08:00
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by the way, this Reverse Christ bit, while funny, has nothing to do with my views. I'm NOT talking about an antichrist. just to be clear. but it did make me laugh :)…
21 Nov 2008, 06:26
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hey, no time at the moment, but I didn't mean to sound mocking to you or anyone in particular. sorry if it came off that way. if you could see my face you'd know I'm smiling. tic…
21 Nov 2008, 02:47
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wow. thorny issue I guess. yuk yuk, Ok, first I'm gonna say I think a lot of you are looking at it too closely from a Christian perspective. No one seems to have a problem saying…
21 Nov 2008, 00:36
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Yeah, I've only really entertained those curiosities (I'll refrain from calling them mysteries) in the hope that they illuminate something important. and yeah, back calculating th…
20 Nov 2008, 17:45
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Okay, I'll buy that Roy. Man, that Solar Labyrinth has some wacky ideas. just read his idea about that oversized baby in Baldander's castle being Severian and Juturnas baby from ma…
20 Nov 2008, 17:41
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I don't remember that one. been a while. I'm reading Hobbit to my son. he's loving it.…
20 Nov 2008, 03:00
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I'm looking forward to reading The Long Sun. will start pretty soon. I think I'm gonna skip rereading Urth for now. And yes, I don't mean to force an exact equivalency. I mean, Typ…
19 Nov 2008, 21:04
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Ok. well I don't think he's exactly identical. In a sense, Jesus is not a perfect instance, or why would he be tempted or have the risk of failure. The LOGOS is eternal. yes, and …
19 Nov 2008, 20:29
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I'm using the word in the sense of an Instance in the physical world. IF the Logos manifests as a man, that is an instance of that energy, a hypostasis of that energy into flesh. …
19 Nov 2008, 20:10
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When I bought that book it was way over my head, and I've yet to delve back into it, Yet for the last dozen or so years it's been the only book facing OUT on my bookshelf, because…
19 Nov 2008, 19:05
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