urth-urth.net Digest, Vol 10, Issue 15

turin · 16 Jun 2005, 23:16 · from 2005-June.txt.gz

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From: turin at HELL.COM (turin)
Date: Thu Jun 16 23:16:42 2005
Subject: (urth) Re: urth-urth.net Digest, Vol 10, Issue 15
Message-ID: <20050617061640.7437A23E92 at sitemail.everyone.net>

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unless it's titled The Tertiary Roots of 
Cyberpunk: The stories that influenced the well-read authors whoinfluenced 
the authors that rode the crest of the Cyberpunk wave.
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That is it exactly. I have no clue about the geneaology of scifi. I wouldn't put Wolfe in a cyberpunk anthology at all and he is a genuine "literary" author in the sense that he defies genre, of content not form, identification. 

I was simply wondering  about the "distance" between Wolfe and cyberpunk and note the thematic similarities between Wolfe's work and the Ghost in the Shell films in particular.  There is an article (one I happen to disagree with) in technology review entitled Against Transcendance and Bruce Sterling is quotes as saying that transcendance is what comes with the territory when writing science fiction.

It -does- seem to be a convention now, at least in the majority of the most of the important ones, but maybe I am biased towards transcendance, in fact, I am. I wonder when, in the literature, Sterling's statement becomes really applicable, because it seems to me that he is right.

also I'd very much like to hear what you think cyberpunk is and as I said its geneaology besides Snyder..... or merely what was said in the class. 

I don't know if anyone has written anything about the evolution of scifi in a taxonomical way.... I wonder what it would look like considering the volume of material and how recent the most interesting and important  were written.  Teaching a class on cyberpunk sounds very interesting though very specialized.

EOT;

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