Secret of the Inhumi - Please Destroy My Theory

Jordon Flato · 26 Mar 2009, 21:07 · from 2009-March.txt.gz

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From: jordonflato at gmail.com (Jordon Flato)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:07:46 -0700
Subject: (urth) Secret of the Inhumi - Please Destroy My Theory
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Yeah, I have that thought as well, in terms of humans not killing and
enslaving each other.  There can be no doubt that that is a big part of the
thematic exploration of the human/inhumi relationship, and it may indeed be
the secret.  It is valid, and a part of the narrative, whether it's the
secret or not.

The things that lead me to think it might not be the secret are that it
isn't something that is really possible.  People have been trying to live
that way forever, and they don't.  Horn telling everyone that they need to
be that way to stop the Inhumi may effect some, but it wouldn't change
humanity as a whole, although maybe it would.  In any event, we ARE meant to
come to that conclusion about Humans and Inhumi, the same way we are meant
to see the results of ACTUALLY loving one's enemy, in the form of
Horn/Krait.

But, I can't find the resonance in that idea in the Sewers.  I'm certain
that the sewers are meant to be an enormous clue in the Secret, about how
humanity can save itself.  I could be wrong, but the neighbors comment seems
to support that.

Even if it isn't the secret, the fact that green will no longer have humans
once the Whorl is gone, and the resonance with the Sewer is all new stuff to
me, and makes this read through very interesting.

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:01 PM, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net>wrote:

> Someone commented here recently that the "secret" was that the inhumi can
> feed and enslave only because humans kill and enslave one another. They can
> only do it because they feed on creatures that permit them to continue doing
> it by making them like themselves. I find this convincing.
>
> That is, according to my "mythic" theory, the same as saying that demons
> are only evil because humans do evil. It's a fairly subtle response to the
> mythology of demons and the work of Satan. Demons, and inhumi, are morally a
> symbolic extension of humans' vast capacity for both good and evil.
>
> As for the rest of your theory, it seems to make sense.
>
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> Ok, so I'm re-reading SS now, and have just finished Incanto's story of the
> Sewer's on Green (at dinner with the Inclinto family).  I've been really
> focused on Krait's secret this read through, and some things have come
> crashing in on me.
>
> Bear with me.  I have forgotten much of what happens, detail wise, in the
> rest of Green's Jungles and RttW, so there is much to destroy my current
> thinking.
>
> For a long time, I've assumed the secret was some variation on the Golden
> Rule, as some other do as well.  Two big problems with that:  That isn't
> much of a threat to have as a secret, as it's not a very plausible thing
> for
> humanity to actualize.
>
> The variation on that is not Love thy neighbor (no pun intended, although
> now that I think of it....) but Love thy Enemy...enemy being Inhumi.  We
> see
> that Horn's love for Krait changes Krait.  There is something there.  But
> today, the following occured to me.
>
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