Today, a Sea Slug. Tomorrow, ... ?
Jerry Friedman · 18 Jan 2010, 04:14
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From: jerry_friedman at yahoo.com (Jerry Friedman)
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:14:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: (urth) Today, a Sea Slug. Tomorrow, ... ?
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--- On Sun, 1/17/10, Jeff Wilson <jwilson at io.com> wrote:
> > Severian's friend the Green Man
> always seemed quite plausible to me. I
> > hadn't realized just how plausible. Apparently a sea
> slug has
> > incorporate algae genes into its genome and produces
> and uses
> > chlorophyll inside its body:
> >
> > http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/53496/title/Sea_slug_steals_genes_for_greens,_makes_chlorophyll_like_a_plan
That's pretty amazing, if it's confirmed.
> There's still a question of him being able to intercept
> enough sunlight to
> be more active than a slug. A man-sized silhouette in
> Earthly conditions
> intercepts less than 100 calories worth of sunlight a day.
Is that with perfect efficiency? Gosh, are you seriously
telling me to do the calculation? Half a square meter in
sunbathing position, 1 kilowatt, 8 hours, that's 14,400
kJ or about 3400 big calories. You're assuming something
like present photosynthetic efficiency.
> From the Green
> Man's sunny smile, his people apparently still have
> humanlike teeth, so
> presumably they can eat a variety of food to make up the
> deficit, but I'm
> not sure if reducing your food needs by 1/30 is worth the
> hassle.
The sun could be brighter in his time than ours, and genetic
engineering could have improved the efficiency of
photosynthesis and that of metabolism.
> It might be that the chlorophyll isn't strictly for food,
> but for sensory
> purposes; can anyone think of an occasion when the Green
> Man would need to
> be able to feel a shadow falling on him, or would have to
> distinguish
> between bright lights of different character?
I can't We do fine with vision. Though human color
vision is rather klugy, I gather, and those same
genetic engineers could probably improve it without
any cost by making it more like birds'.
Jerry Friedman
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