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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:52:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman at yahoo.com>
To: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net>
Subject: Re: (urth) Today, a Sea Slug. Tomorrow, ... —
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--- On Thu, 1/28/10, Jeff Wilson <jwilson at io.com> wrote:
On 1/17/2010 10:14 PM, Jerry Friedman
wrote:
--- On Sun, 1/17/10, Jeff Wilson<jwilson at io.com>?
wrote:
Severian's friend the Green Man
always seemed quite plausible to me. I
hadn't realized just how plausible. Apparently
a sea slug has
incorporate algae genes into its genome and
produces and uses
That's pretty amazing, if it's confirmed.
Did you see the thing last year? A predator microbe that
becomes
photosynthetic if it eats this other microbe, then fissions
into the original separate microbes again?
Missed that one.
There's still a question of him being able to
intercept enough sunlight to
be more active than a slug. A man-sized silhouette
in Earthly conditions
intercepts less than 100 calories worth of
sunlight a day.
Is that with perfect efficiency? Gosh, are you
seriously
telling me to do the calculation? Half a square
meter in
sunbathing position, 1 kilowatt, 8 hours, that's
14,400
kJ or about 3400 big calories. You're assuming
something
like present photosynthetic efficiency.
He said it was pond scum, so I presume it was something
vaguely like pond scum.
Sure. I just wanted to know what you were presuming.
? From the Green
Man's sunny smile, his people apparently still
have humanlike teeth, so
presumably they can eat a variety of food to make
up the deficit, but I'm
not sure if reducing your food needs by 1/30 is
worth the hassle.
The sun could be brighter in his time than ours, and
genetic
engineering could have improved the efficiency of
photosynthesis and that of metabolism.
maybe, but 30x as efficient?
As you said, he probably still needs to eat. If between
more sunlight and more efficient photosynthesis and
metabolism he gets ten times as much as we would, it
would reduce his need for food by about 1/3, which seems
worth some hassle.
Jerry Friedman
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