Is Agia a Robot?

David Stockhoff · 18 Jun 2010, 16:26 · from 2010-June.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 12:26:29 -0400
Subject: (urth) Is Agia a Robot?
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I think now it makes perfect sense. Hethor describes a pliant slave. She 
says she mastered him---previously, she had not mastered him---she was 
not the master. She could have been nothing, per her story to Severian, 
but she says she "should have mastered him." There was a "before" before 
Hethor pursued her as a suitor.

(She could even be changing "Hethor chased me with monsters whom I slew" 
to "I am just a poor girl with only a dirty old sailor as a suitor. He 
wishes to marry me but I spoke a word and now he is my puppy." Wolfe 
characters have divergent perspectives that direct their speech in 
reference to identical events. In this case, it's a clash of genres: 
sci-fi vs picaresque.)

Therefore they are the same. What changed?

Ryan Dunn wrote:
> I guess it just sounds much less slavish how she knows Hethor, whereas he describes her as a sex slave in a lemonwood box who got loose.
>
> Could go either way, since his toy HAS gone missing. And she does say she mastered him in the text.
>
> Space opera sub-plot is RIGHT!
>
> ...ryan
>
>
> On Jun 18, 2010, at 11:25 AM, David Stockhoff wrote:
>
>   
>> Ah, that explains what I wondered about a minute ago: Hethor controlled her with monsters.
>>
>> Anyway, while I don't know why Agia would change her eye color, I don't see why she couldn't ... IF she is a paracoita.
>>
>> Possibly she changed her color to purple for Hethor, then changed it to evade him. And doesn't go back because it is after all an unnatural color.
>>     
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