Is Agia a Robot?
António Pedro Marques · 18 Jun 2010, 22:17
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From: entonio at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ant=F3nio_Pedro_Marques?=) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 23:17:15 +0100 Subject: (urth) Is Agia a Robot? In-Reply-To: <4C1BB20D.4040700 at verizon.net> References: <AANLkTik8q4okRfHDUjNPoRh68A6eWmfNwUq7cf5HfOQd at mail.gmail.com> <c04b2f980ef1e79f2e8882a1572cac65.squirrel at brunians.org> <AANLkTin7JGoBQj11fEpFR059H0C66bZNjEmMLEqZPnC4 at mail.gmail.com> <4C1B32C6.5030907 at io.com> <a2a9234fa189632637dbf500b34ecc88.squirrel at brunians.org> <4C1B7A59.1090406 at verizon.net> <f33ba678b6152753adbcf652dbeb9483.squirrel at brunians.org> <FEFD6649-58AB-45D7-ADF1-BBCDC5AF4892 at liftingfaces.com> <4C1B8EE9.6090706 at verizon.net> <36006D71-A703-4BE6-AB12-C541923ADD88 at liftingfaces.com> <4C1B97F1.7020902 at gmail.com> <6F357DDC-786A-45FC-8C3B-1BB454062421 at liftingfaces.com> <4C1BB20D.4040700 at verizon.net> Message-ID: <4C1BF06B.6040207 at gmail.com> David Stockhoff wrote: > Well, the proverb doesn't describe female assassins---just women. So > it's ambiguous. She could certainly be a trained or experienced female > assassin, in addition to being either nonhuman or nonfemale. But since > Wolfe probably made up the "proverb," it was with a purpose, and there > are no clues that Agia is simply an angry trained human female assassin. > (Unless she wears secret assassin armor on her head.) I just find that Agia is the single most important character in the whole story and precious little is known about her. Maybe Wolfe's hints are not in the sense of her being a robot, but something else - though just what I can't guess. - She is there almost from the beginning until the end - even as Severian becomes Autarch, she becomes the Autarch's antagonist, seemingly out of nothing - what's she got to do with the Vodelarii?? - Compare Agia's omnipresence to Thecla's, who Severian is always mentioning, yet barely appears in the story in person - by contrast, Agia has a will of her own to remain relevant. - Why the obsession with Severian? He killed her brother/lover, ok, but it's not like it was undeserved, and he did it merely as an instrument of Law - not to mention that A&A went to great lengths to entrap Severian before he did anything - can anyone believe that the twins' usual business was killing unwary travellers in avern duels? The fact is that Agia's whole purpose from beginning to end seems to be to work as an antagonist to Severian. To me this suggests that the character is much more important and mysterious that it seems at first sight, and that the oddities about her beg for some grand explanation. Iow, I don't think the odd hints point to her being a robot, but rather to something much more extraordinary (whether part of it is being a robot or not, and bearing in mind that pretty much everything in Wolfe's books is extraordinary, both in etymological and pedestrian sense). Just what, I have absokutely no idea at all. I certainly don't think she's the Devil, she's not that powerful.
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