Is Agia a robot?
Jeff Wilson · 19 Jun 2010, 16:51
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From: jwilson at io.com (Jeff Wilson) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:51:58 -0500 Subject: (urth) Is Agia a robot? In-Reply-To: <4C1CDED2.20203 at verizon.net> References: <AANLkTilEMWmWvkvMyu7eMmm7hPwOEJhYU5LPxe7ACNyN at mail.gmail.com> <a16c27b53aac2465279145061b0dad82.squirrel at brunians.org> <324527.37514.qm at web50706.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <6EF719D8-3C09-4F2D-8756-F67DA969C9E8 at liftingfaces.com> <4C1B189E.9070305 at io.com> <B8FEA1B7-C43E-49A4-972F-2701E58B0516 at liftingfaces.com> <4C1CCFE1.6000704 at io.com> <4C1CDED2.20203 at verizon.net> Message-ID: <4C1CF5AE.1020007 at io.com> On 6/19/2010 10:14 AM, David Stockhoff wrote: > Good points. First, she's not proposed to be a "bot" in any usual sense, > aside from having a metal head. And Agilus can lie, or maybe he doesn't > even know what she is. Here's a video of a pitcher getting beaned. Right after the crack of the bat, there's a *tok* of the ball-skull collision. IMO the bat's crack is sharper than the skull's *tok* , which is still sharper than the *thump* of meaty limbs being struck on the floor which doubtless we are all familiar with. The ball hits faster than Agia's head would have hit the wall, but the stone wall would be much more rigid than a baseball. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auss-QFCor4&feature=PlayList&p=4C9AAD000C45EE30&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=18 http://preview.tinyurl.com/2dy5gd2 I live in a fairly rural area, I suppose I could round up a cattle skull, put a wig on it, and record it smacking it into stone surface. > Second, she may have something to hide, vs having modesty, although > modesty could just as well be "programmed." For all I know, she has a > penis. This is modesty *after* she has been seen completely naked. And why would anyone program a sexbot to cast runic curses? > Third, you are exactly right about Agia's character. Severian is a > torturer; I propose that Agia is an assassin; Brunians proposes that she > is a whore. His theory works better in some ways than mine. I do not see that Agia is an assassin, her murders do not appear to serve anyone's purposes outside hers and her brothers. > Fourth, the aureole is not of hair, but that's an interesting > observation. More importantly, it covers the pair, not Agia. The two > together are more than either of them individually. Rereading about their "aureate faces" and "a narrow beam of sunlight that had given his head, and Agia's, an aureole a few moments before", it could be the dust and fibers from the straw on the floor, the way mist makes an aureole around the moon's sunlit face. http://www.lpod.org/?p=702 or since "aureate" can also eman decorated with gold, there might be no actual fringe of light, but instead this would be another reference to their skin tone, which Sev has already likened to gold where the sun glints from Agia's skin through a rent in her ragged gown. I'm not saying this doesn't count as a subtextual halo, of course. > And if she's supposed to be a fully functional android, it would > hardly do for her to go around boasting of her strength and her > nuclear power cell. That's not the same as a sexbot - "sleeping" immobile in a box is a strong advertisement that you are not really a person. -- Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com IEEE Student Chapter Blog at < http://ieeetamut.org >
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