Oannes
David Stockhoff · 17 Mar 2012, 01:13
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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 21:13:32 -0400 Subject: (urth) Oannes In-Reply-To: <CAM3O41JhCRAjfBUSTdpcjM2H7VAViL+3GPmcE4Gx0Qku6hLR5Q at mail.gmail.com> References: <CAM3O41JhCRAjfBUSTdpcjM2H7VAViL+3GPmcE4Gx0Qku6hLR5Q at mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F63E53C.50809 at verizon.net> And isn't Oannes the Babylonian fish god? On 3/16/2012 6:35 PM, Andrew Mason wrote: > I mentioned a while ago the way in which, in Long Sun/Short Sun, the > lesser gods can sometimes become manifestations of the true God, > culminating in the Rajan's statement near the end that 'insofar as > they are gods at all they are him'. I've realised that there is > something similar in _New Sun_, in the Oannes passage (SOTL 31), 'I > did not believe in Oannes or fear him. But I knew, I thought, whence > he came - I knew that there is an all-pervasive power in the universe > of which every other is the shadow. I knew that my conception of that > power was as laughable (and as serious) as Oannes.' The power is > identified as the Increate at the end of the chapter. > > Later, in _Urth_, Severian says that he has become the Oannes of his > people. Might this be a clue to what Wolfe means by saying that > Severian is a form of the Outsider? > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net >
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