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Urth Digest, Vol 112, Issue 21
Sergei SOLOVIEV · 17 Dec 2013, 14:59
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From: soloviev at irit.fr (Sergei SOLOVIEV) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 15:59:35 +0100 Subject: (urth) Urth Digest, Vol 112, Issue 21 In-Reply-To: <c5d4b6f$1173b5c3$656e8640$@hwaet.com> References: <c5d4b6f$1173b5c3$656e8640$@hwaet.com> Message-ID: <52B066D7.5060800 at irit.fr> I am not sure, but may be in this case it would be appropriate to sign some sort of card collectively? Sergei Soloviev Eric Bourland wrote: > I'm usually quiet on this list, but appreciate its discussions every > day. I find Ms. Rosemary's passing quite sad. I have never met Mr. or > Mrs. Wolfe, though for a while I lived approximately near them in Chicago. > > I would like to send flowers, or a brief simple card, to Mr. Wolfe's > family. This gentleman's stories have been in my life since I was a > kid. I could send them care of the his publisher, Tor Books, and that > would be respectful of the family's privacy. Are other people on this > list doing anything similar? > > Eric > > ******* > Eric Bourland > eb at hwaet.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From*: "Eric Bourland" <eb at hwaet.com> > *Sent*: Monday, December 16, 2013 10:51 PM > *To*: urth at lists.urth.net > *Subject*: re: Urth Digest, Vol 112, Issue 21 > > Blue of cheek ... pale. That is how I read it. Since Severian is > unusually pale, I would suppose she would be commenting on that > paleness. In certain wan light the cheek might look blue. > > > ******* > Eric Bourland > eb at hwaet.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From*: urth-request at lists.urth.net > *Sent*: Monday, December 16, 2013 5:13 PM > *To*: urth at lists.urth.net > *Subject*: Urth Digest, Vol 112, Issue 21 > > Send Urth mailing list submissions to > urth at lists.urth.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.urth.net/listinfo.cgi/urth-urth.net > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > urth-request at lists.urth.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > urth-owner at lists.urth.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Urth digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Editor in China requesting help with translation of > certain sentences in BotNS (Antonin Scriabin) > 2. Re: Rosemary Wolfe, R.I.P. (aaron) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 15:54:56 -0500 > From: Antonin Scriabin <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com> > To: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net> > Subject: Re: (urth) Editor in China requesting help with translation > of certain sentences in BotNS > Message-ID: > <CAM0v-i5K7dW_F15E9URqLBBeG5PAP=-GLmo4-DVpRNZ7OSbERw at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Well, "bluer of cheek" is a variation on the term "blue-blood", of > course a > reference to nobility ... you could see the surface veins of those who, > because of their stature in society, had very pale skin (they didn't have > to work outside at physical labor, thus acquiring a tan). > > In Solitaire, a black (or red) Jack is placed "on top" of a Queen of the > opposite color (and a different suit, necessarily) ... so perhaps the > "elector" is the Jack and the "patroness" is the Queen? > > "Theocenter" might simply mean "godhead", or a reference to the > oneness and > simplicity thereof, as the root of all existence, in a Judeo-Christian > sense. But don't quote me. > > Not sure about the other one, I'll have to page through my copy at home to > get the full context. > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Otto Jack Petersen < > danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Got this alert from the Goodreads Gene Wolfe group: > > > > > > https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1614149-help-some-details-in-the-shadow?utm_medium=email&utm_source=comment_instant#comment_88705259 > > > > "I am a SF editor & Wolfe fan in China, and we are trying to publish The > > Book of New Sun in Chinese. I've done a lot of work in reading and > > translation , yet there are still some sentences I can't understand. > Hope I > > can get some help here. > > > > THE HOUSE AZURE > > While I was undressing I said, ?Nevertheless, we all seek to discover > what > > is real. Why is it? Perhaps we are drawn to the theocenter. That?s > what the > > hierophants say,that only that is true.? > > > > what does "theocenter" mean? I can't find this word in dictionary nor can > > I google it. and what does the whole sentence mean? > > -------------------------------------------- > > THE LAST YEAR > > I carried them to her, and she said my beard had shot up like them, and I > > should be bluer of cheek than the run of common men, and the next day > > begged my pardon for it, saying I was that already. > > > > what does "bluer of cheek"and " run of common men" mean here? > > ----------------------------------------- > > DORCAS > > ?Your pardon, sieur,? he said. ?But I can?t come no nearer. Wet she may > > be, but she gets too dry for me, or you couldn?t walk upon it. > > > > Does "she" refer to the boat or Cas' body? what does the sentence mean? > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > THE PLAY > > confirm the outcome of a love affair by putting the elector of one suit > > atop the patroness of another > > > > If the word suit refer to the some card game, then what does "elector"and > > "patroness"mean?" > > > > -- > > Daniel Otto Jack Petersen > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Urth Mailing List > > To post, write urth at urth.net > > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20131216/759f1300/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 16:16:38 -0500 > From: aaron <aaronsingleton at gmail.com> > To: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net> > Subject: Re: (urth) Rosemary Wolfe, R.I.P. > Message-ID: > <CAEnJbxAV20+c9EP84AQ10g=kpMBBuZXCCvN=u-LCsRtqtNTmXA at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Sorry to hear this. I know how loss feels as I lost my brother and > grandmother within a week of one another at the end of November. What a > year. > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes > <danldo at gmail.com>wrote: > > > It is sad news, but it has been coming a long time. May she be at peace > > and Mr Wolfe also. > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Antonin Scriabin < > > kierkegaurdian at gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> That's terrible :-( > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Fred Kiesche > <godelescherbach at gmail.com > >> > wrote: > >> > >>> http://floggingbabel.blogspot.com/2013/12/a-farewell-to-rosemary.html > >>> > >>> Oh, no. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> F.P. Kiesche III > >>> > >>> Husband, Father, Good Cook. Reader. Keeper of abandoned dogs. Catholic > >>> Liberal Conservative Militarist. Does not fit into a neat box or > category. > >>> "Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always, scribble, > >>> scribble, scribble, eh?" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being > presented with > >>> Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at > Bernal > >>> Alpha. On Twitter as @FredKiesche > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Urth Mailing List > >>> To post, write urth at urth.net > >>> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Urth Mailing List > >> To post, write urth at urth.net > >> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Dan'l Danehy-Oakes > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Urth Mailing List > > To post, write urth at urth.net > > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net > > > > > > -- > Aaron Singleton > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20131216/d4d78511/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net > > End of Urth Digest, Vol 112, Issue 21 > ************************************* > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net
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