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Who Wants to be a Torturer? (was Quotehunt)

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William Ansley06 Jul 2000, 23:43originalas archived
Who Wants to be a Torturer? (was Quotehunt)
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Is that your final answer? Sorry. Ooooh, you were so close! The correct answer is: "In the final reckoning there is only love, only that divinity. That we are capable only of being what we are remains our unforgivable sin." But you still get some lovely parting gifts. <g> William Ansley
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At 2:06 PM -0400 7/5/00, Robert King wrote: I think it's at the very end of Claw, in the scene where Jolenta dies. As I recall, it goes something like: "In the end there is only love, only that divinity. That we are capable of being only what we are remains our unforgivable sin." Believe it or not, I used the line when I had to give my speech as the valedictorian in high school. I figured Severian was a cooler reference than Polonius ("to thine own self be true," yadda yadda yadda). Damned if I can remember what context I placed it in, though. -- Bob On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Alex David Groce wrote:
Ok, I'm trying to find where in New Sun Severian says something roughly like "Our one unforgivable sin is that we remain capable only of being > what we are." I can't find it anywhere, and I'm not sure I have the phrasing correct. Anyone remember this?
Alex David Groce07 Jul 2000, 13:55originalas archived
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Thanks, Robert and William! A side note: I "stole" (with attributions I'm sure no one paid any attention to) much of my high school graduation speech from LITTLE, BIG and Eliot's "Little Gidding."
"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32 -- Alex David Groce (agroce+ at cs.cmu.edu) Ph.D. Student, Carnegie Mellon University - Computer Science Department 8112 Wean Hall (412)-268-3066 http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~agroce
Charles Dye08 Jul 2000, 10:31originalas archived
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William Ansley <wansley at warwick.net> writes:
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The correct answer is: "In the final reckoning there is only love, only that divinity. That we are capable only of being what we are remains our unforgivable sin."
Oddly enough, that second sentence appears twice in Claw: near the end of the first chapter, and near the end of the last. Vodalus and Jolenta -- what's the connection? raster at highfiber.com

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