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OT: divine justice

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aramini1 at cox.net22 Mar 2005, 20:51as archived
OT: divine justice
All this talk of Abraham and his son has enticed me to post again after my silence through the Skinner, et al. posts. As a child, I always thought about why Jesus had to suffer for the evil of the world. Then it came to me, one day. It reminds me of Simmons analysis of the Abraham sacrifice. God created the world. Jesus is one in being with the Father, God the Creator. Jesus died for the sins of the world, and the evil of mankind. God created mankind and the world, and all the evil in it. Therefore, the only justice possible was the ritual execution of that God, who created the world and all that was in it. Imagine the bizarro creator id lingering in the back of the mortal goodness of Jesus' mind, glutted with cosmic power and yearning for some new experience to match all the sensous depravity and pristine goodness that It had already created. Self-crucifixion - a new pyre of experience to kindle, like some proto-Dorian Grey: a hunger for redemption and newness buried under timeless experience, all bundled finitely together under the facade of ultimate innocence - the face of the suffering Christ. With that image in mind, certainly Severian could be a Christ figure. Downright Godly. Marc Aramini (next post will be on Wolfe)
James Wynn22 Mar 2005, 22:30as archived
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All this talk of Abraham and his son has enticed me to post again after my silence through the Skinner, et al. posts. As a child, I always thought about why Jesus had to suffer for the evil of the world. Then it came to me, one day. It reminds me of Simmons analysis of the Abraham sacrifice [that Abraham was testing God].
I've never met or read a Jewish Rabbi or secular religion scholar that did not find the Isaac sacrifice problematic. But I can assure you as an authority that Fundamentalist Christians don't find it problematic at all. A) Because they (believing all the events in the OT stories to be historical fact) recognize that the story is absolutely stewing in Christian imagery (which is undeniably true). So they read Abraham story as they read the rest of the Old Testament: as a deliberate allegory set up by God to point to Jesus the Messiah. B) Because the letter to the Hebrews (NT) states that Abraham was trusting in God's goodness and integrity in following a command he did not understand. It says that Abraham knew that God had promised to make a great nation from Isaac, so he believed that, if nothing else, God would raise him from the dead after the sacrifice. It was an act of child-like or knight-like trust in God. ~ Crush

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