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Paul B19 Jul 2007, 02:55as archived
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Hi! I saw this alluded to in the archives, but wasn't able to find a text reference - where does it say that Severian spent a year as an Ascian slave, after becoming Autarch? That's a curious detail that came as a surprise to me. Paul
Roy C. Lackey19 Jul 2007, 05:13as archived
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Paul B wrote: Hi! I saw this alluded to in the archives, but wasn't able to find a text reference - where does it say that Severian spent a year as an Ascian slave, after becoming Autarch? That's a curious detail that came as a surprise to me.
URTH, chapter LI, second page. But it doesn't quite say he was a slave then. -Roy
Paul B19 Jul 2007, 05:42as archived
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Oh, I see what you mean. I'd thought he referred to his much shorter capture by the Ascians in Citadel, which admittedly seemed much shorter than a year, since he says the Autarch (as Severian and the old autarch) was absent for a month only in XXIV of Citadel. However, I dismissed that as another self-contradiction by Severian. But, if it's true, then that means he must have been captured twice - one would think that would somehow have been more important than it's been, but I suppose that's solidly in the realm of speculation. Paul
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On 7/19/07, Roy C. Lackey <rclackey at stic.net> wrote: Paul B wrote:
Hi! I saw this alluded to in the archives, but wasn't able to find a text reference - where does it say that Severian spent a year as an Ascian slave, after becoming Autarch? That's a curious detail that came as a surprise to me.
URTH, chapter LI, second page. But it doesn't quite say he was a slave then. -Roy _______________________________________________
Rex Lycanthrosaurus19 Jul 2007, 15:09as archived
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On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 22:55:43 -0400, "Paul B" <pb.stuff at gmail.com> said:
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Hi! I saw this alluded to in the archives, but wasn't able to find a text reference - where does it say that Severian spent a year as an Ascian slave, after becoming Autarch?
It's extratextual and was mentioned in an interview conducted by Robert Frazier for a fanzine called Thrust in 1982: Frazier: "Perhaps we could end this by telling something about Severian that doesn't end up in the books." Wolfe: "There was the time when Severian encountered assassins in the Secret House who had come to kill Ymar, an autarch a chiliad dead. I may write about that sometime. And the year he spent as a slave of the Ascians. But I doudt that either will make it into print." The interview may be reprinted in the new Wright book, but I'm not sure, as my copy has not arrived yet.
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Stuart Hamm19 Jul 2007, 15:29as archived
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FYI It is included, and this quote is on page 55 Have a great one Y'all! Stuart Rex Lycanthrosaurus <lycanthrosaurus at fastmail.fm> wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 22:55:43 -0400, "Paul B" said:
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Hi! I saw this alluded to in the archives, but wasn't able to find a text reference - where does it say that Severian spent a year as an Ascian slave, after becoming Autarch?
It's extratextual and was mentioned in an interview conducted by Robert Frazier for a fanzine called Thrust in 1982: Frazier: "Perhaps we could end this by telling something about Severian that doesn't end up in the books." Wolfe: "There was the time when Severian encountered assassins in the Secret House who had come to kill Ymar, an autarch a chiliad dead. I may write about that sometime. And the year he spent as a slave of the Ascians. But I doudt that either will make it into print." The interview may be reprinted in the new Wright book, but I'm not sure, as my copy has not arrived yet.
Rex Lycanthrosaurus lycanthrosaurus at fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again
don doggett19 Jul 2007, 16:07as archived
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--- Rex Lycanthrosaurus <lycanthrosaurus at fastmail.fm> wrote: It's extratextual and was mentioned in an interview conducted by Robert Frazier for a fanzine called Thrust in 1982:
Wolfe: "There was the time when Severian encountered assassins in the Secret House who had come to kill Ymar, an autarch a chiliad dead. I may write about that sometime.
I'm assuming this is the episode that ends up in Urth of the New Sun? If so, then this is important because the assassin clearly singles out Severian to die and I believe the consensus was that he was sent to kill Sev. As many of you know, I believe that Severian and Ymar are essentially the same person. This just increases my belief in that theory. Don The Evangelists: a Lesser Apocrypha http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=178109961

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