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Marc Aramini10 Jun 2008, 16:42as archived
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I have had the suspicion that some cosmic body was being switched around at the eclipse -that aphetas planet was actualy switched with the moon, producing the increasingly fierce tides and making the moon seem bigger. There is a scene when severian is simming and looks up to feel watched from the moon. Unfortunately I really need to read urth again.
Marc Aramini10 Jun 2008, 17:02as archived
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of course the problem with this switching is the vast disparity in time between apu punchau and the new sun
Roy C. Lackey10 Jun 2008, 18:46as archived
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Marc Aramini wrote: I have had the suspicion that some cosmic body was being switched around at the eclipse -that aphetas planet was actualy switched with the moon, producing the increasingly fierce tides and making the moon seem bigger.
There is a scene when severian is simming and looks up to feel watched from the moon. Unfortunately I really need to read urth again.<<<
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of course the problem with this switching is the vast disparity in time between apu punchau and the new sun<<<
The bigger problem is that "aphetas planet", as you put it, is in a completely different universe from Lune. -Roy
Marc Aramini10 Jun 2008, 19:55as archived
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I don&#39;t think that the different universe issue is necessarily a problem if ossipago famulimus and barbatus ( from the top of my head I know I murdered those names) sev and the green man and even tzadkiel and the ship can move between their places and the urth
Jeff Wilson11 Jun 2008, 03:03as archived
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Roy C. Lackey wrote: Marc Aramini wrote:
I have had the suspicion that some cosmic body was being switched around at the eclipse -that aphetas planet was actualy switched with the moon, producing the increasingly fierce tides and making the moon seem bigger.
There is a scene when severian is simming and looks up to feel watched from the moon. Unfortunately I really need to read urth again.<<<
of course the problem with this switching is the vast disparity in time between apu punchau and the new sun<<<
The bigger problem is that "aphetas planet", as you put it, is in a completely different universe from Lune. -Roy
She does use of a sort of dimensional portal to deposit Severian back on the Ship, already back in Briah, and is visible to him for a while after. (URTH, late Ch 22 - early Ch 23) He records seeing her in place of the moon while he scrounges among the wreckage of the flood in way similar to that earlier appearance. (can't get Amazon's "look inside" to let me check the chapter, but it's p. 340 out of 386 in the edition they offer just now) In the earlier sequence, Severian is unable to avoid entering the portal and speculates it could be gravity or escaping air that forces him. If it's gravity, then it's possible that the Yesodis can pipe in their gravity as needed; if it's "just" air, they still may be able to bodily portal in planets to provide gravity, though I doubt they'd remove their own planet from Yesod.
Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com < http://www.io.com/~jwilson >

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