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Funny that you bring up the D. Void books as I always saw quite a bit of them in Long/Short Sun. The second Dune trilogy is by far better than the first.…
29 Nov 2011, 11:46
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Well the Tleilaxu females are lobotomized, hooked to machines, and mutate into massive piles of flesh large enough to birth a full size human clone (or Ghola as the are called in t…
29 Nov 2011, 02:06
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Yeah thats interesting for sure. I agree with David though. Someone tried to grow a human being. The question is who that someone is. Typhon is a logical choice. By the way the …
29 Nov 2011, 00:20
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Yeah I always wondered if Typhon was in fact a fallen Hierodule. "Better to rule in Hell than to be a slave to Heaven" indeed.…
28 Nov 2011, 21:51
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Am I the only one that thinks that the mandragora and the Prime Calcula are one and the same? I know some believe it is a reference to the Mainframe AI but is there any mention of…
28 Nov 2011, 20:50
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Yeah that seems to be where I was going with my Silk=blond haired man clone idea.…
28 Nov 2011, 18:34
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No I think that his mind or whatever you want to call it laid dormant all those years between the Conciliator until his resurrection. The reason he didnt reappear is because Sever…
28 Nov 2011, 04:04
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Doesnt Miles eventually recover some memories and tell Severian that his name is in fact Miles though?…
28 Nov 2011, 02:35
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Cilinia has a saints name because she is biologically human as her father is likely Piaton or the Blonde haired man. His fate is tied with this blonde haired man because this is t…
28 Nov 2011, 01:57
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I dont know about Rigoglio but Mamelta says nothing about Typhon. IIRC the only memory of Urth she relates is being on a patio with her brothers throwing a ball through a water fou…
28 Nov 2011, 01:45
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well of course Gerry. But Typhon is a monster in the same way that Abaia or Erebus are monsters. As I said before if you see Typhon as human thats fine. I just trust Wolfes nami…
28 Nov 2011, 01:24
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Didnt all the sleepers have thier minds wiped before boarding the Whorl? That would seem to solve the problem of recognition of Silk. Maybe the cloned bodies wouldnt be fully grow…
28 Nov 2011, 00:41
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Before this thread turns into another Typhons Nature Ill just say this: In Castle of the Otter in the Onomastics chapter Wolfe very clearly lays out his naming scheme. His first r…
28 Nov 2011, 00:26
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Thanks again Lee. I know that Typhon was grafted onto Piaton, my question was when? I was wondering where the One year figure came from between Typhons grafting and his death. I…
28 Nov 2011, 00:04
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I just want to know where the one year figure comes in. Where does it say that?…
27 Nov 2011, 22:41
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Yes Agia, Agilus, and Casdoe are saints. Baldanders and Talos are mythic names and that seems to fit with thier natures as Baldanders has become more than human and Talos is a hom…
27 Nov 2011, 22:35
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Where does it say when Typhon was grafted to Piaton? And not to be a smart ass but since when is a year not enough time to have children. Besides even if Piaton did not father chi…
27 Nov 2011, 22:22
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Yeah his powers seem to be telekinetic in nature. I know he breaks Severians staff and animates the corpse. Telekinesis would surely allow these acts as they are physical manipul…
27 Nov 2011, 22:13
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Sorry I cant really recall the exact order of events. If he recieved the ring after he was freed then that dont make much sense. Just a thought I had after reading Lees post.…
27 Nov 2011, 22:08
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Yes but Typhon seems to have done the opposite of those such as Baldanders. He began as a monster that transformed himself into a human so that he could rule over humans. Him be…
27 Nov 2011, 22:03
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While Jonas isnt a saintly name it is derived from the bible. As to your other point all the human characters that are from pre-Conciliator era such as Declan, Hadelin, Zama, He…
27 Nov 2011, 21:49
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Just a quick thought. Has anyone ever considered that the ring may be what allowed Horns resurrection in the pit? This may be what was held to Horns forehead. IIRC there is a mo…
27 Nov 2011, 21:33
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Thanks Lee. I think that the concept of aliens in Wolfes universe being evolved or mutated humans is interesting and it may very well be that Typhon could be one of these beings.…
27 Nov 2011, 21:21
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Severian sees him as a "man" because Piaton is a human. Typhons head however may closely resemble a human or might even be the head of another human body he possessed so that coul…
27 Nov 2011, 21:05
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Typhons motivation is simple. He wants to extend his life and his rule. His grafting onto Piaton was a desperate measure that he undertook to accomplish this. By saying that he …
27 Nov 2011, 20:47
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Well I dont think that Typhons alien origin was common knowledge among the people thus his comment in Urth where Severian is told by Typhons guard not to speak of anything he sees …
27 Nov 2011, 06:12
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Thanks Gerry. My only problem with this theory is that I believe Typhon is an alien. Silk may be have been a body grown for Pas to use after disembarking, a body for "permanent p…
27 Nov 2011, 01:18
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I apologize for asking such a question as Im sure it has been discussed ad naseum but as I am fairly new to the list and still playing catch up in the archives here goes: What make…
26 Nov 2011, 22:33
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Could the scarred man be Auk?…
26 Nov 2011, 01:54
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Yeah that seems to explain the problem of the ring. I always thought there were two different rings and tried to figure out where the second one came from. I find the theory of y…
26 Nov 2011, 01:53
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Silks theorising on Mucor and Pike occurs near the end of Lake Ch. 9. And Mucor is not actually Bloods daughter thus there is no familial relation to Pike.…
24 Nov 2011, 03:11
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Thanks Jeff. Just a random thought that occured to me this morning. Ive been really concerned with exactly how Horn/Silk takes a part ("though not a leading part" as stated by Wol…
19 Nov 2011, 23:58
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If I remember right isnt there a point in Urth of New Sun where Severian goes inside the planet of Yesod in something akin to an elevator? As ridiculous as it may sound is it poss…
19 Nov 2011, 14:43
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I have said this before on this list but I believe that it was one of Severians time traveling "slivers" that resurrects Horns physical body (inhabited by the Neighbor). His later…
19 Nov 2011, 01:20
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I agree with both of you. I think its best when reading the sun books to aply only one or two layers. On my last reading of New Sun I simply tried looking for references to Th…
17 Nov 2011, 22:29
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Thanks James. Back when I thought Blue was Urth I thought maybe it was the ruins of the Botanic Gardens and that the island was the floating plantlife that was inside before its d…
17 Nov 2011, 16:48
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1) What is the glass structure that Horn and Seawrack come across on the island? 2) If Horn is resurrected on Blue as a Nieghbor what/who dies on Green? …
17 Nov 2011, 12:44
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Were there any appearances of godlings hidden in Long Sun?…
16 Nov 2011, 22:24
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yeah Im gonna go ahead and agree with Lee on this one in particular his statement about Baldanders.…
16 Nov 2011, 21:42
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I attempted a brief timeline of Short Sun during my reread. This is from my notes. OBW-flashback-Horn sent to Pajarocou. Voyage across Blue. Horn boards lander. IGJ-flas…
16 Nov 2011, 01:40
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But the presence of the breeding program reveals that the Whorl was more than a zoo. It seems more like an insurance policy of Typhons that no he always have a kingdom and a peopl…
10 Nov 2011, 22:35
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If the Whorl left after Severians encounter with Typhon in Urth then that would explain the "disaster" they were trying to escape from. Surely Typhon recognized Severian as the Con…
10 Nov 2011, 18:30
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Ive always been interested in trying to further that idea and would like to hear any evidence for or against it if you guys have some.…
10 Nov 2011, 14:07
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I once had a theory that the Whorl never left Urths system and functioned more like an Ark made to spare some of humanity from the flooding of Ushas. Typhon knowing of the floodin…
10 Nov 2011, 12:58
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Yeah and you explained it to me no less. Totally think I missed that. Oh well read it now and its seems pretty like a good theory to me. I wish I was as familiar with Long/short…
10 Nov 2011, 01:12
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Thats a great theory. Can you explain the whole Fava thing to me though? I had no clue she was one of Bloods prostitutes.…
10 Nov 2011, 00:07
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I didnt take it that way at all. I just assumed you didnt want to spoil anything for me. That she was my first thought that she was possessed by Kypris but couldnt remember if it…
08 Nov 2011, 12:59
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Maybe I should have read the next chapter before I posted huh?…
08 Nov 2011, 11:50
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Whats the deal with Chenille in Lake ch. 3/4? Is she possessed by Kypris during some of these scenes?…
08 Nov 2011, 02:31
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Looking over the Gevers interview (Magus of many suns) earlier and intrigued by one of Wolfes comments. He is asked "Does Silk/Horn take an active part via astral projection in th…
07 Nov 2011, 00:57
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