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The mechanism is the trees, linked over and over to the Neighbors, at the crux point where horn says good-bye at the end of OBW. Of course a part of him is still in Silk, but it i…
16 Nov 2011, 18:07
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I don't know what you are saying here Antonio. Babbie is not just a hus in Rttw because he's carrying Horn. Yes, that is the opening of BtLS where SILK catches the ball. He's Si…
16 Nov 2011, 15:29
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Up there after Horn "dies" in the pit, obviously something beyond the ordinary occurs to resurrect him, he goes to Green and then physically dies again to be cast into the suicidal…
16 Nov 2011, 15:15
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You guys are not mentioning the prophecy: I see you, Horn, riding a beast with 3 horns (2 tusks and one soul of Horn) I am very very confident the majority of Horn goes into Babbi…
16 Nov 2011, 15:07
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Mine is a bit different. Horn begins his quest on Blue, dies in the pit (his blood is used to engender the new generation of nieghbors and neighbor Horn, a separate entity). The …
16 Nov 2011, 15:02
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--- On Thu, 11/10/11, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote: ? I admit I'd like to have seen amen. no, no independent comfirmation of hybridization. I just think the theme of h…
10 Nov 2011, 18:46
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My only concern here is: why the past? How did they get there if they left at Typhon's time? Obviously with time travel there could be past or present, but why would the past be …
10 Nov 2011, 16:32
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Awake! for Morning in the Bowl of Night Has flung the Stone that puts the Stars to Flight: And Lo! the Hunter of the East has caught The Sultan's Turret in a Noose of Light. …
10 Nov 2011, 15:34
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Can the moon be an asteroid or not? No?…
10 Nov 2011, 15:02
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The passage of time makes it difficult to imagine that the long sun whorl didn't go somehwere, unless it's not 300 but 3000 years as the lost digit in Maytera's ruminations might h…
10 Nov 2011, 14:59
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Blue is colder than urth. i think the flood is a retelling of the old myth "how green it is after the rains!" Ok, here goes, and then I'm going to try my best to leave it alone …
10 Nov 2011, 03:54
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Fava definitely is Hyacinth somehow, I just think she retrieves her spirit, not certain that she actually goes back and becomes a new body Hyacinth, or if she does, or that there i…
10 Nov 2011, 02:52
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He denied Green/Blue was Urth/Lune. He never ever denied to me what he wrote to me; just asked me not to share it after the fact. What is the author's say? --- On Wed, 11/9/11, J…
10 Nov 2011, 02:48
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My problem with all this is that Blue is colder than Urth is colder than Green - that city under the water is a MacGuffin, we are meant to look at it and try to find a way to map U…
09 Nov 2011, 22:45
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Sometimes when Roy posts I feel like Michael Douglas in "Falling Down". "When did I become the bad guy?"…
09 Nov 2011, 19:44
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Fair enough Roy.…
09 Nov 2011, 19:42
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Sure, resonance, but to me, a personal friend of Wolfe, for Green not to really be Urth, Gene had to be making a terrible joke on Christmas to a fan who pretty much worships him. …
09 Nov 2011, 19:37
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The other linking element is how when he thinks about the cities he is somehow "reminded" of the other one. Does Paris remind you of New York? maybe, but Houston remind you of Sea…
09 Nov 2011, 18:56
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All this vegetable talk is good fun and games, but if you look over Empires of Foliage and Flower, Thyme is a herb who lives only off water while his "daughter" must eat, she plays…
09 Nov 2011, 15:48
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--- On Tue, 11/8/11, Ant?nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com> wrote: From: Ant?nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com> Subject: Re: (urth) Father Inire as giant vegetable To…
09 Nov 2011, 03:32
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Could be Gerry, in light of Empires of Foliage and Flower where Father Thyme is like a big time travelling vegetable. Could be. You have to watch out for the vegetation, I'm tellin…
09 Nov 2011, 02:23
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In real life it would be, not in a Dickensian type of fiction where coincidences and shared settings and unity of setting and theme are at least a possibility. How else could we e…
08 Nov 2011, 15:16
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So that canted tower that they expected to "save them" because it was a stripped rocket ship didn't do it for you with the round port windows? It's the conglomeration of compari…
08 Nov 2011, 12:50
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Read my own post from 2002 on Pandora to see what I had said. The list is so different now!? (I was a MUCH friendlier fellow too - and Roy and I were engaging in friendly banter wh…
08 Nov 2011, 04:32
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Thanks!? I always suspected Holly was up to no good with that pot smoking and some of her other comments, I have to tell you. I will try to read it in its entirety tomorrow, looks …
08 Nov 2011, 03:44
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Really? I'm just going to use direct quotes. "This was a tower indeed, its nose high as the tops of the tallest trees and its sleek lines radiating a strength it no longer posess…
08 Nov 2011, 03:42
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--- On Mon, 11/7/11, Nick Lee <starwaterstrain at gmail.com> wrote: From: Nick Lee <starwaterstrain at gmail.com> Subject: (urth) vanished people=Hieros To: "urth" <urth at urth.…
07 Nov 2011, 22:29
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I agree with you on this, Gerry. The problem is metonymic associations are impossible to prove except through repetition ad nauseum, and can still can be denied. Thus the simil…
07 Nov 2011, 20:44
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--- On Mon, 11/7/11, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> wrote: Gerry, I feel like we've inexplicably switched places! Doesn't sev say it's a moon in that quote (and isn't that y…
07 Nov 2011, 16:32
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07 Nov 2011, 15:23
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--- On Mon, 11/7/11, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> wrote: From: Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> Subject: Re: (urth) vanished people=Hieros To: "The Urth Mailing List" <…
07 Nov 2011, 15:22
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interesting, but the double conglomeration of the moon and apheta must surely mean something. Thanks for adding the [sic] there, I surely meant Lune, not Green. (The rajan and hi…
07 Nov 2011, 03:34
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I think that's our different view, the Christ in my mind lived in Briah already and syncretized with the conciliator myths later. Divine salvation and continued earthly or yesodi …
07 Nov 2011, 02:57
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Another thing I wanted to comment on is the scene in Urth where Sev looks up and Apheta is peering at him from Green. I really need to take notes like I did for Short Sun for Urth…
07 Nov 2011, 02:50
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--- On Sun, 11/6/11, Nick Lee <starwaterstrain at gmail.com> wrote: From: Nick Lee <starwaterstrain at gmail.com> . Pan/Dionysus is a pretty common mythological allusion, howev…
07 Nov 2011, 02:43
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07 Nov 2011, 02:39
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let me get this straight. mankind will evolve into heirogrammates (?). What is the green man? I am fairly certain the vanished people were what was left of humanity after the tr…
06 Nov 2011, 03:51
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thanks. That seems definitive to me, the vanished people are certainly not heirodules, nor are they cooperating with them. Great. So ... how was the Green man related to the hei…
06 Nov 2011, 03:44
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Hopefully we can find that interview because I don't remember anything like that from an interview, only a refutation that they were related to the Shadow People of fifth head of c…
06 Nov 2011, 03:22
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Mucor, Fava, and Mora or whatever her name is go back in time at one point to retrieve Hy's spirit, if the doll in the dreams in Short Sun is indeed Mucor.…
06 Nov 2011, 01:49
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Blargh. I think Severian's salvation MIGHT perhaps be false, and that the green he brought is no better for man in his current state, only for his future state, and he leaves the …
06 Nov 2011, 01:47
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Yes James, my criticism is least of all directed at you. It was just unfortunate that I wanted to share something with the list and it ultimately cost me an intimate relationship …
05 Nov 2011, 21:05
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Insights were actively quelled, dismissed as irrelvant by editors, close analysis of the text was cosntantly being put to Occam's razor in a way that is simply not viable when disc…
05 Nov 2011, 17:46
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--- On Sat, 11/5/11, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote: From: James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> Subject: Re: (urth) This week in Google alerts To: "The Urth Mailing List" <…
05 Nov 2011, 17:32
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--- On Sat, 11/5/11, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote: From: James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> Subject: Re: (urth) This week in Google alerts To: urth at lists.urth.net Da…
05 Nov 2011, 16:30
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--- On Sat, 11/5/11, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote: From: James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> Subject: Re: (urth) This week in Google alerts To: urth at lists.urth.net Da…
05 Nov 2011, 16:27
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We can agree it's not simile!? that would have been cool and more clear. "No, no, no!? Green is like or as Urth!"? bwa ha ha ha ha ha. The fallout from that chain of events is wh…
05 Nov 2011, 16:23
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--- On Sat, 11/5/11, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> wrote: From: Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> Subject: Re: (urth) This week in Google alerts To: "The Urth Mailing Lis…
05 Nov 2011, 16:20
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And as far as Green's redemption being evil ... hostile to normal biological men now. Is Severian's salvation false? Is the Green man evil? I don't know. I just know Green is t…
05 Nov 2011, 15:53
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He said in response to my question about the that Green is urth. Green is, of course, Urth's future. This is the rise of the green man, and the ruins on green are all that remain…
05 Nov 2011, 15:48
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