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If you grant that Silk's enlightenments were supernatural and came from the Outsider -- known as the Increate in NS -- then Silkhorn professed an encounter with the Outsider when h…
02 Dec 2010, 19:29
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James Wynn wrote:. Not even. Later in that same conversation with Hide, Silkhorn all but spells it out (IGJ, 355). The Neighbors were native to Blue. Further, on the same page Hid…
02 Dec 2010, 06:34
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The books state that the Neighbors were native to Blue (lists, OBW, IGJ), so if they are trees they did not originate on Green. The migration of the Neighbors was the other way ar…
02 Dec 2010, 02:15
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James Wynn wrote: [snip] How curious. A Neighbor lured Horn to his death, then took pity on him, mended his broken neck and brought his body back to life. Yet when wounded Horn wa…
01 Dec 2010, 06:43
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I agree. IIRC, there are also other places where Silkhorn confuses one wife with the other, when he writes Hyacinth when he means Nettle. He also consciously substitutes Hyacinth's…
22 Oct 2010, 17:56
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Rigoglio had never been exposed to the gods-in-the-machine on the ship, and the gods could not follow the colonists to Blue. Even if he just gave lip-service to the ship's gods, ju…
07 Oct 2010, 04:28
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Take two. Let me give the Tartaros quote again: "When the first people came, Auk, they were shown how we desired to be worshipped. Soon, they were made to forget. They did, but be…
06 Oct 2010, 06:19
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If there are other Herenas, they aren't in the books. Anyway, I was agreeing with you that Sev's power is divine in nature, not strictly biological. I shouldn't even mention other…
29 Sep 2010, 07:16
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Dorcas is the one who came up with the theory that Sev's powers involved turning back time to a point before the injury or illness occurred. That theory is disproved by Sev's refas…
28 Sep 2010, 21:10
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Typhon had been revived before Little Sev died. That's how he knew Sev had the Claw. He said he was watching when Sev tried to use it to bring back the boy. -Roy…
27 Sep 2010, 19:33
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I meant Kypris, not Mamelta. -Roy…
27 Sep 2010, 07:04
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Same here. There is no direct proof that Typhon's home world was not Urth, but there is an indirect indication. If you accept that Typhon ruled some number of worlds outside the Re…
27 Sep 2010, 06:59
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Jeff Wilson wroted and quote: Don't know. But the Age of Myth is older even than the Age of the Monarch and probably includes Apu-Punchau, who was Severian, who used time travel. …
26 Sep 2010, 05:18
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Dave is right about Typhon not being an autarch. Typhon was the last monarch, Ymar the first autarch. The title autarch is used by a number of people in the Commonwealth in Severia…
25 Sep 2010, 18:45
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Yes, her story seems to link him to the library at the Citadel, and the physician who looked in on Severian there after the "earthquake" lends that some support. But Typhon had dre…
24 Sep 2010, 05:49
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And I was refering, in that line, to Lemur's comment: "A certain ruler, a man who had the strength to rule alone and so called himself the monarch, built our whorl, Patera. It was …
23 Sep 2010, 06:47
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James Wynn wrote: ____________ ____________ If that were the scenario, then people should have been clamoring to go. Mamelta said: "We had to volunteer. They were--you couldn't s…
22 Sep 2010, 19:08
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Jeff Wilson wrote: [snip] The ship was never intended for a round-trip mission. The internal time that passed since launch was 332 years, as indicated by the date on that letter t…
22 Sep 2010, 06:04
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Lemur said: "A certain ruler, a man who had the strength to rule alone and so called himself the monarch, built our whorl, Patera. It was to be a message from himself to the univer…
22 Sep 2010, 03:50
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That quote doesn't make sense. I wonder if it's tied to what Lemur said about entrenched memories of Typhon and his family being too deep to eliminate, so the Nine were renamed. Le…
16 Sep 2010, 19:30
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It has long been my belief that Wolfe said Pike in the manse was a ghost, and I know I'm not the only one with that impression. If he didn't state so expressly elsewhere, this is t…
16 Sep 2010, 04:41
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Yes it is, James. You seem to be confusing Chapter and Charter. Look back at what I wrote. You broke up my paragraph, which is perfectly okay, but the antecedent for the pronoun "i…
15 Sep 2010, 19:17
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Both of those possibilities ignore my point. I'll say it again. If memories of Typhon and his family were too deeply entrenched in the minds of people put aboard the _Whorl_ to be …
15 Sep 2010, 19:14
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Being Was Obviously so. People obeyed Potto and Lemur and the fake Siyuf. People didn't know they were robots. she that's I did read the text carefully, James. That's why I wr…
15 Sep 2010, 04:44
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Sure, it's easy to see that the religion of Viron is a parody of Catholicism. It it also easy to see how a parody could be made in a Hindu-based city like the one Gaon must have be…
15 Sep 2010, 04:42
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Legal status!? What would an egotistical tyrant care about legal status? Was he going to be voted out of office or something? Thecla was just a few years older than Severian, yet …
14 Sep 2010, 19:12
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I don't accept the premise. Wolfe, in that List questionnaire, said that Pike on the stairs of the manse was a ghost. I see no reason to doubt him. What scene do you mean? When Si…
14 Sep 2010, 16:57
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James Wynn wrote: [snip] Having one's head cut off to preserve the face is very radical, particularly if there were other options available, such as clones and chem bodies that co…
14 Sep 2010, 04:14
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I don't presume to know what you were thinking then or now, but since it was I who brought up the weight issue back then, I do know what I was thinking and what I said. It had noth…
13 Sep 2010, 19:39
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I agree. And Silk did think it was the Outsider who had brought him back. "You returned me to life, Outsider," (Calde, chap. 9, 331). The thing is, this clone stuff in LS/SS is som…
13 Sep 2010, 02:09
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Jeff Wilson wrote: [snip] There are no references to clones in LS or SS, but there are the khaibits of NS who do closely resemble their originals. Severian gives no indication tha…
12 Sep 2010, 03:51
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I don't think there are any characters with two names in LS, regardless of their relationship to the narrator. Had there been, for example, when Chenille used the glass in Siyuf's …
07 Sep 2010, 17:54
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Not even that works. Horn's full-brothers were named Calf, Tallow and Tongue; his full-sisters Cowslip and Oxlip. Horn's half-brothers (same father) are Antler and Stag. Cricket wa…
07 Sep 2010, 04:33
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Reindeer theory? You amaze me. And that wouldn't change a thing now, would it? In a Pig's arse. They fit in just as much as beef. I keep overestimating people. And I even spell…
03 Sep 2010, 22:25
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Good for you. Beef? Last time I checked, Santa's reindeer had horns, sinews, hooves and hides. Then there are so many more animals, like goats and buffalo and I guess I should be t…
03 Sep 2010, 17:55
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Xiphias is a swordsman and his name means swordfish. So what? Every name means something. There are several other characters named after fish. Are they all therefore related? Is th…
02 Sep 2010, 19:20
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Rather, he had just told both men they must all leave before the Guard got there. "You, Master Xiphias, must return home. You're a fine swordsman, but you can't possibly protect m…
02 Sep 2010, 02:33
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I'm willing to abide by dictionary definitions of the word, and I don't need a lecture on the etymology of the word -- I know it. <g> It was James who brought up the word yesterday…
01 Sep 2010, 18:34
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This is straying from the subject of this thread, but I want to follow up on what I said in my reply to the earlier iteration of this post. Loris said that Chenille's mother, the …
01 Sep 2010, 16:49
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Ah! I do not make that assumption. The embryo Silk came from was special, no doubt about it, but how Tussah came to know of it I don't know. I've long wondered why, if Typhon cou…
01 Sep 2010, 08:28
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What does Chenille being the natural daughter of Tussah have to do with Silk's reflexes? Silk's biological father was the blue-eyed guy Silk saw in his vision of Mainframe heaven. …
01 Sep 2010, 04:36
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Yes, she eats, as I pointed out when I was shooting down the Hy-is-a-male-chem theory. It was *because* she was so hungry that Auk went to the market at the beginning of chapter 3 …
29 Aug 2010, 20:34
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James Wynn wrote: [snip] [snip] We do? I don't. All I know is that Silk came from a frozen embryo that had been selectively modified for certain traits. The identities of the cel…
25 Aug 2010, 19:20
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I remember no such thing. Citation, por favor. [snip] If this were my theory, one of the things that would bother me is the fact that Hy died on the _Whorl_ at the age of forty-t…
24 Aug 2010, 19:44
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I wrote: "(LAKE, chapter 13, p-315)" That should be chapter 12. -Roy…
23 Aug 2010, 19:53
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The character list in LAKE reads: "Chiquito, a parrot once owned by Mamelta's parents." No, the word parrot is not mentioned in the book; neither does the bird make an appearance…
23 Aug 2010, 19:48
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Agreed. At 08:25 CDT this date, he wrote: [snip] [snip] If nothing that I, or Wolfe, or anyone else *can* say can change your mind, well, that speaks for itself. There is nothin…
16 Aug 2010, 19:18
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It's "your poor coworker Myself,". The coworker part distinguishes Incus from Bittersweet or any other invited guests, if any. It had been Incus who had worked with Fulmar to alter…
16 Aug 2010, 06:02
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The two underlined parts of the note are not related. The first refers to the object of the mission Remora sent him on. Incus is mildly scandalized that his boss is sending him, an…
15 Aug 2010, 21:32
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The coins minted when Sev was autarch had his ugly, scarred face on them. Not at all like a woman's. [snip] Possible, but why should he? Idle curiosity? Idol curiosity? Why would…
13 Aug 2010, 19:42
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