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The greasy texture, in part. At any rate, there is something about the dubious specie Talos collected that night that set them apart from the coins that were undoubtedly genuine. …
13 Aug 2010, 16:34
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There is more than one passage. In the third chapter of SHADOW, when he finally looks at the coin he got from Vodalus, he sees what he at first thought was a woman's face on the ob…
13 Aug 2010, 14:58
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When Severian was being returned to Urth from Yesod, the Ship somehow took a shortcut. Only a day or so after the trial, the Ship was just outside the Old Sun's system, somewhere "…
13 Aug 2010, 04:25
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Lee Berman wrote: [snip] 22 minutes later, under a different subject line, he wrote: [snip] And these two statements can't help but bring to my mind the post I made in the "Boatm…
12 Aug 2010, 14:39
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Lee Berman wrote: [snip] I disagree. She is speaking of entropy, as Apheta had earlier when she acknowledged that it was something that even the Hierogrammates had to deal with. …
11 Aug 2010, 05:14
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It is right there in black and white. I can't help it if it doesn't fit in with your theories. Yesod *is* apart from Briah, not simply the next universe in an endless sequence of …
10 Aug 2010, 19:34
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John feels that the Yesod is a universe apart from Briah and the other manvantaras, on a different level. This is not my opinion; it is what Severian was told by Malrubius in CITA…
10 Aug 2010, 15:00
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Sev Oh. He had to go back to the future to write his second manuscript. <g> That, and he had other trips to make in time, such as being in the crowd who came to Sev's aid when he …
10 Aug 2010, 14:59
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It is because some people's posts (Lee Berman), even when responding to an existing thread, are sent to the List as if they were new threads with a new subject line. That's why Lee…
09 Aug 2010, 18:22
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Apparently so, because Sev was warned not to destroy the revived corpse. Sev thought that the revived-corpse version of Apu that he left behind is the Apu who came to the seance in…
09 Aug 2010, 17:47
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You're really reaching, Lee. Almost by definition, the billions who suffered and died in the process had no choice in the matter. And if the process had not been completed, they wo…
09 Aug 2010, 06:55
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Lee Berman wrote: [snip] Exactly that -- to the evolution of the Hierogrammates outlined in "The Key to the Universe" chapter in CITADEL. On the Ship, Severian was shown some of t…
08 Aug 2010, 17:36
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Lee Berman wrote: [snip] At least you didn't deny it, which I suppose counts for something. But I seem to be talking right past you; either that or you are trying to enjoy a cabri…
08 Aug 2010, 05:14
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Lee Berman wrote: [snip] *Father Inire is an alien.* This is what I meant about some Grand Unified Theory to which many of your suppositions are subordinate. It is based on the …
07 Aug 2010, 19:09
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Yeah, those were among my objections years ago when you first brought this up, and they still obtain. [snip] You keep throwing out statements like that as if they were accepted L…
06 Aug 2010, 19:30
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To his trial? No, he went to Yesod the same way Sev did. "Soon I recalled that when the old Autarch had been brought to Yesod, just such a ship had come for him." (URTH, chap. XV,…
18 Jul 2010, 18:01
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I agree. If I had said any such thing I would have been wrong. I didn't say any such thing. Quite the opposite. Again, I agree. I'm not the one who thinks Inire is anyone's father…
18 Jul 2010, 07:31
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I mentioned Patera Silk as an example from the Sun Cycle of a man who is a priest who had no natural children. Priests of the RC Church, and others, also are commonly addressed as …
17 Jul 2010, 22:23
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Jane Delawney wrote: [snip] I suppose both men made that assumption because that is what the text says. Sev is speaking to Ossipago on the Ship: ----------------- "And yours [Oss…
17 Jul 2010, 18:24
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I don't think that is possible. Typhon was stranded on Urth at the time Severian showed up as the Conciliator, meaning that the _Whorl_ was already gone and Typhon was not far from…
17 Jul 2010, 17:52
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I A holy slave need not be any particular species. BF&O are hierodules. The former are biological creatures; Ossipago is a machine. The biological hierodules, at least, were devel…
16 Jul 2010, 19:13
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I'm not going to step into that. <g> Anyway, I think Thecla's next line was better, even if it more properly belongs in Andrew's thread. "Or that the authority that punishes no on…
10 Jul 2010, 04:08
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James Wynn wrote: [snip] It is stated in the original LEXICON URTHUS, p-90, published in 1994, that Dorcas is Severian's paternal grandmother. -Roy…
09 Jul 2010, 22:49
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Ushas was not seeded with just any humans from the Ship. Specifically, Sev means the sailors who survived the battle with the eidolons and fled the room where they fought (URTH, 15…
09 Jul 2010, 22:05
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________________ Uh, I don't think so. Most of the people Sev found on Ushas after he returned there from the stone town were the decendants of the sailors on the Ship who had los…
09 Jul 2010, 21:05
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[snip] Excellent! That is exactly the way the argument has gone, both now and in the past. Ant?nio wrote: [snip] Ditto. Things that get ignored tend to be anything in the text …
08 Jul 2010, 02:11
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Since you have claimed that both Rudesind and Fechin are really Inire, it doesn't really matter, does it? They are all the same person, and I guess the part about being a boy is ju…
07 Jul 2010, 19:04
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Indeed. (I don't know how this topic got switched to this thread.) As I have already said, the last recorded conversation with Rudesind took place *after* Severian became autarch…
06 Jul 2010, 18:59
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I should not have said human beings of the First Empire, which was earlier in Severian's universe. That should have been "The human beings of a previous universe . . ." -Roy…
01 Jul 2010, 20:08
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This is probably a futile attempt to drag this discussion back to what Wolfe actually wrote, but I am going to do it anyway. What has gotten lost is the truth of what Dan'l and Jo…
01 Jul 2010, 19:50
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Huh. And I thought I might have been too sarcastic. I The Cumaean was a Hierodule, so Inire had told Sev (URTH, 357). Famulimus and Barbatus nodded agreement when he said that in…
30 Jun 2010, 04:32
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I think he was the guy in a cowel who led Sev out of the House Absolute and back to the theater troupe. And of course that he was the shaman in the jungle who tried to rescue the O…
29 Jun 2010, 06:43
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Yes. According to Wolfe, Severian is 6'1". The exultant Ultan was a head and a half taller than Severian. And how would being a famous painter two generations before Severian's ti…
29 Jun 2010, 03:43
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Why limit Inire to male characters? If he can be a fraking robot (Ossipago) and monkey his way up Agia's family tree (which, according to some, makes him related to Severian), and …
28 Jun 2010, 20:28
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A link to chems was made, I suppose because chems have metal bodies, which led to posts about chems and metal heads and black fluid and fiber-optic wires. That was the only reason …
19 Jun 2010, 20:28
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I have found that facts seldom get in the way of fancied theories, but here are a few. Male chems (soldiers like Hammerstone) are taller, heavier than fem chems, and 5.25 times st…
19 Jun 2010, 03:58
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It's not a typo. Sev also went on about the Wall's improbable height (clouds; the few birds that could fly over it) just as the theater troupe got to the gate. The gate itself is l…
14 Jun 2010, 17:41
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Jeff Wilson quoted and wrote" Yes. "While I stared in disbelief, Famulimus sang, 'You came too near your double once, you know; that was here, in this poor town of stones. Then he…
14 Jun 2010, 17:38
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In his story, he doesn't actually say that she cast the beans into the sea, just that she threatened to and was seized and torn to bits. But I suppose we are to assume the beans we…
14 Jun 2010, 07:13
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Close enough, except that eidolons are always of the dead. Yes, the eidolon must have the WF's light to use the Corridors. They weren't interested in keeping Sev (as Apu, Head of…
14 Jun 2010, 05:00
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The strangled meat didn't know what the eidolon knew; all that had just been learned from BF&O in the tomb. The eidolon had to get away from him or die. -Roy…
13 Jun 2010, 21:48
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The Obviously it would be bad for the newly-created eidolon, because he would cease to exist. That eidolon walked the Corridors to get back to Ushas, where he eventually penned hi…
12 Jun 2010, 18:22
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Ossipago was afraid that the first light from the White Fountain would penetrate a chink in the tomb and revive the strangled corpse -- which is exactly what happened after BF&O le…
12 Jun 2010, 06:29
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Yes, he built it. It is mentioned all through LS. Right. Not to mention that it failed to stop the flood. <g> And what mighty ruler in the distant past knew of and desired to atte…
11 Jun 2010, 19:38
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Probably so. And I have little doubt that he could have dispatched them at least as easily as the U.S. Navy could have dealt with the Squid God. Anyone who could build the _Whorl_ …
11 Jun 2010, 04:53
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I had the same thought. <g> And an afterthought: Those long sections of the Wall down south, where there are no Ascians, makes more sense if the Wall was originally intended to th…
10 Jun 2010, 09:05
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Jonas said: "You were correct when you said Erebus and Abaia are as great as mountains, and I admit that I was surprised you knew it. Most people lack the imagination to conceive o…
10 Jun 2010, 08:45
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I don't think the Ascians were a factor in Typhon's time. He ruled the whole planet. (Remember all the ethnic factions from all over Urth that were forcibly put aboard the _Whorl_.…
08 Jun 2010, 08:03
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Definitely not reliable, which is why I qualified the statement. Cyriaca may have conflated separate events, just as we get an American Civil War naval battle mixed up with Greek m…
07 Jun 2010, 17:55
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I agree. The City Wall seems to be circular and there are at least two southern gates, Sorrowing and Praise (SHADOW, chap. XXXV). The Citadel is at or near the center of the city …
07 Jun 2010, 05:57
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