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Hyacinth's weight

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Dave Tallman03 Sep 2010, 05:28as archived
Hyacinth's weight
I've been looking around in CofLS and EftLS and I have yet to find any reference to Hyacinth's weight being unusually low. I seem to have exhausted all the times Silk and Hy were together. Does anyone know where to find these?
James Wynn13 Sep 2010, 16:03as archived
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On 9/3/2010 12:28 AM, Dave Tallman wrote: I've been looking around in CofLS and EftLS and I have yet to find any reference to Hyacinth's weight being unusually low. I seem to have exhausted all the times Silk and Hy were together. Does anyone know where to find these?
I'm back and released from my imprisonment. I also had trouble relocating these references by normal hunt and peck methods. I've started another pass through the books. But I'm quite certain they were referenced. Back in the day when I was arguing that Hy might be a chem, I conceded that weight was a hurtful blow because it had been referenced about her at least twice.
Roy C. Lackey13 Sep 2010, 19:39as archived
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James Wynn quoted and wrote: On 9/3/2010 12:28 AM, Dave Tallman wrote:
I've been looking around in CofLS and EftLS and I have yet to find any reference to Hyacinth's weight being unusually low. I seem to have exhausted all the times Silk and Hy were together. Does anyone know where to find these?
I'm back and released from my imprisonment. I also had trouble relocating these references by normal hunt and peck methods. I've started another pass through the books. But I'm quite certain they were referenced. Back in the day when I was arguing that Hy might be a chem, I conceded that weight was a hurtful blow because it had been referenced about her at least twice.
I don't presume to know what you were thinking then or now, but since it was I who brought up the weight issue back then, I do know what I was thinking and what I said. It had nothing to do with Hy's weight being unusually low; it was that chems, particularly the males (you were saying that Hy was a male chem), weigh much more than humans. Even a fem chem weighs more than human women. This is indicated a couple times. One is in the wake of Rose's funeral. Marble had killed Musk and overheated in the fire and collapsed. Later, Silk helped her to stand up but had to heave "with all his strength" to do it. He helped her to the arbor near the manse and the Rose in her started talking about giving birth to Blood. At one point he said "I would have carried you, Maytera, if I could; but I knew you'd be too heavy for me to lift." (CALDE, chap. 4, 131) Another place is when Mint (shortly after getting out of the tunnels) and Marble were reunited near the Grand Manteion. "Maytera Mint was laughing and hugging her and trying to lift her off the ground, which was so ridiculous that Maytera Marble exclaimed, 'Stop, sib, before you hurt yourself!'" (EXODUS, chap. 11, 215) -Roy
James Wynn13 Sep 2010, 19:45as archived
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Okay. It's beside the point here. But as I say, it was a good point at the time.
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On 9/13/2010 2:39 PM, Roy C. Lackey wrote: James Wynn quoted and wrote:
On 9/3/2010 12:28 AM, Dave Tallman wrote:
I've been looking around in CofLS and EftLS and I have yet to find any reference to Hyacinth's weight being unusually low. I seem to have exhausted all the times Silk and Hy were together. Does anyone know where to find these?
I'm back and released from my imprisonment. I also had trouble relocating these references by normal hunt and peck methods. I've started another pass through the books. But I'm quite certain they were referenced. Back in the day when I was arguing that Hy might be a chem, I conceded that weight was a hurtful blow because it had been referenced about her at least twice.
I don't presume to know what you were thinking then or now, but since it was I who brought up the weight issue back then, I do know what I was thinking and what I said. It had nothing to do with Hy's weight being unusually low; it was that chems, particularly the males (you were saying that Hy was a male chem), weigh much more than humans. Even a fem chem weighs more than human women. This is indicated a couple times. One is in the wake of Rose's funeral. Marble had killed Musk and overheated in the fire and collapsed. Later, Silk helped her to stand up but had to heave "with all his strength" to do it. He helped her to the arbor near the manse and the Rose in her started talking about giving birth to Blood. At one point he said "I would have carried you, Maytera, if I could; but I knew you'd be too heavy for me to lift." (CALDE, chap. 4, 131) Another place is when Mint (shortly after getting out of the tunnels) and Marble were reunited near the Grand Manteion. "Maytera Mint was laughing and hugging her and trying to lift her off the ground, which was so ridiculous that Maytera Marble exclaimed, 'Stop, sib, before you hurt yourself!'" (EXODUS, chap. 11, 215) -Roy _______________________________________________

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