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Interesting. thanks for sharing that. It's something I haven't been exposed to. I'm getting a really strong sense of retro-empathy for a particular Chinese-American fellow student …
22 Jan 2011, 03:36
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[snip] Yes, we should reel back in. I only brought all that up because of Agia. Severian describes Ascian eyes as "brilliant", "wide", "insane" and "saner". Maybe there is another…
21 Jan 2011, 21:14
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Again with natural selection. They could select for the epicanthic folds. And in fact, North America would be a cold environment in Urth times. But enough digression. Those eyes …
21 Jan 2011, 19:25
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Well, that seems obvious. None of that says that if North American Ascians are decended from Asia that they would lose there traits. Yes, they would be different, as the local gen…
21 Jan 2011, 19:06
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That leeps getting mentioned. I just read it and don't remember it. Quote please? I don't think he is trying to say that Asians embody this. I think it is that he imagined communi…
21 Jan 2011, 15:07
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Sure. Maybe. I am aware of the pronunciation of Ascia in the Lexicon. I love the Lexicon, but there are things that clearly are wrong. Take the map of the Citadel. 9 towers are sh…
21 Jan 2011, 15:03
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This quote from the battle, "I think I must have cut down half a dozen Ascians before I saw that they all looked the same not that they all had the same face (as the men in some u…
21 Jan 2011, 01:33
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Fair point. I don't know anything about that biological theory. Sounds very theoretical. I also wonder when that idea came into vogue. I don't expect/require Hard SF rules for th…
20 Jan 2011, 23:17
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Exactly.…
20 Jan 2011, 22:11
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Hmmm, Frankly, I think the comment is ass-covering in a PC era. North Americans could very well be Asian by the time of the story. Wolfe leans Libertarian. I've heard many a Libert…
20 Jan 2011, 21:20
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If so, maybe she is the assasin of Valeria. But I think he describes also her body in feminine terms. I think when they are on the fiacre. ~witz…
20 Jan 2011, 20:51
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Strike that. It doesn't answer Ploughman. I don't think Agia has a literal second mask at all. I can't give plot to them, only interpretation as to the symbolic intent.…
20 Jan 2011, 20:29
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Oh boy... All of the energy I put here is to find agreement. If I'm saying why I think your idea doesn't add up, it's because I'm trying to push us towards an solution that agrees…
20 Jan 2011, 20:17
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Agreed. Sure, I suppose I can swallow the asian androgeny bit. Severian describes her eyes as "strangely tilted" and her nose as upturned. I think this is more or less safe to say…
20 Jan 2011, 19:59
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I feel you. I myself think people that won't accept some readings are not facing the obvious. I'm only a fly on the wall as to this threads real content, as I've only read LS once …
20 Jan 2011, 19:41
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It seems I've inadvertantly become nominated as List-Cop because I stuck my neck out in the hope of curtailing the sniping. Snipe away for all I really care. I'm going to try to …
20 Jan 2011, 17:54
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It's a very compelling idea if it holds water. It would tie that up quite nicely. Personally, I don't mis-trust Severian enough to credit him with recognizing her but hiding that.…
20 Jan 2011, 17:33
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Jeff's layout here is compelling. But there is something that makes me think Hethor is using Agia more tham she is using him. He seems to genuinely consider Severian "Master". No? …
20 Jan 2011, 05:29
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Genuine LOL…
20 Jan 2011, 04:35
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Nah, you don't suck here, Lee. Maybe you suck elsewhere.... Dunnoh. Look, anyone should, at this point feel free to call me out on any similar behaviour. I've been known to becom…
19 Jan 2011, 22:22
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Yes, exactly. Not that revenge need be rational though, I guess. Seriously. I can't grab the quote now, but Aramini just mentioned that he thinks Agia and Hethor appear in UotNS. …
19 Jan 2011, 22:15
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For whatever reason, I've always felt that Agia's revenge for Agilus was only part of her motivation. Hethor has a thing for Severian that goes beyond Agia's. They stalk him acros…
19 Jan 2011, 21:56
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Sure. It is his M.O. I'm just saying that NOT EVERYTHING is a riddle wrapped in an enigma wrapped in a paradox in a translation error from an unreliable source. Namsayin?…
19 Jan 2011, 19:42
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I wonder about the issue of the sources. Sometimes things are falsly falsified. Look at how Dan Rather was taken down. The false document he reported on was considered safe because…
19 Jan 2011, 19:40
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Same here, though their suspicions aren't unwarranted. I just started reading the short stories. I spent a day racking my brain as to what was going on in Death of Dr. island and o…
19 Jan 2011, 19:15
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I've only read "Hiroshima," way back in high school. I just went to Amazon to look up "The last Train from Hiroshima" It seems like a well recieved book that has been discredited …
19 Jan 2011, 19:11
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That is a fascinating take. I've never heard it expressed that way. Admitedly I'm no student of WWII. I had forgotten about the genocidal suicide pact. What a motivation that would…
19 Jan 2011, 17:52
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Now I gotta see it. ~Mike…
19 Jan 2011, 04:05
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Well, absolutely. It is his formula. Many would say his shortcoming, as most don't want to work so hard just to comprehend the basic plot. I wouldn't have liked it when I was young…
19 Jan 2011, 04:04
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Thanks for the article. "But people seem to look at mine and expect to find hidden fingerprints under the lily pad or something. I've heard some really nutty theories about my stor…
19 Jan 2011, 00:57
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Lee, you've been harping on Gerry for months, repeating your complaints ad nauseum. PLEASE move on already. Ignore Gerry's comments if you don't like them, but he seems reasonable …
18 Jan 2011, 21:45
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+1 (regardless of the rest of the thread's discussion, which I don't have a position in.)…
18 Jan 2011, 21:38
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My master plan to erradicate signatures is working!…
18 Jan 2011, 20:40
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It's too bad the US brought all those top Nazis in afterward with Operation Paperclip. That sours things quite a bit.…
18 Jan 2011, 18:01
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VERY interesting. I think you've hit the nail on the head, Andrew. I'd say the Khaibit's are more or less their own class. Enslaved Prostitutes.…
15 Jan 2011, 00:22
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Not by my reading. I think the text suggest it happens in the sequence the book presents. In CLAW he recounts the story to Master Ash, in Foila's Request. In the context, Drotte is…
13 Jan 2011, 22:18
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Yeah, the morning and evening filter is probably right. It seems like it would still have to burn your eyes if you looked into it for a while. I imagine the average daylight to be…
12 Jan 2011, 19:36
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You know, every time I've painted the sun red it just seemed too dark, so I was backing off and using a very orange red. The text gives us "golden light" from the old sun at points…
12 Jan 2011, 17:58
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While sometimes I think it goes too far, I'm blown away by all the math and science some of you bring to this. Great stuff.…
12 Jan 2011, 17:46
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Hmm. I don't see much difference in Urth and Ushas. Either is just a cultural name for the same thing. Fair enough though. I'm not at all convinced that Green is Urth. In fact I th…
11 Jan 2011, 22:36
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But UR wrong! And stupidly inferior! Just kidding. I like this. The idea of twin planets, with and without deluge is very interesting. It is possible that Green is some wild fu…
11 Jan 2011, 22:25
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People keep getting it wrong. Wolfe wrote to Marc, "No, No, No, Green is Urth" NOT "Urth is Green" If it was "Urth is Green" I would put zero stock in it because it sounds like a j…
11 Jan 2011, 21:13
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Lee, You couldn't be more wrong here. And I don't think you are inferior for having the view. But really, it's not about a superiority ranking. Me and Flato raise questions with …
08 Jan 2011, 00:03
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BASTARD! How dare you mis space. Good post inthe last. I hate the meta discussion, but sometimes a bit is the only way to get past the friction.…
07 Jan 2011, 23:53
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I think I would prefer all top posting too. It seems the only real problem is the mixing. So often the quoted convesation is way out of wack after a few of these happen in one th…
07 Jan 2011, 23:49
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No one is trying to enforce anything. We've discussed some best practices, and practices seem to be getting better. Nice work everyone. It's nothing personal. If we all put more di…
07 Jan 2011, 22:19
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07 Jan 2011, 22:16
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Look, I understand there is no objective truth in fiction, and I like far out ideas. I agree the Dalek example goes past what people do here. I don't think Ryan's question is too …
07 Jan 2011, 19:29
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I certainly agree with that. People can get so invested with their theories that they hold onto them well past their breaking points out of pride I guess. Thats when things seem to…
07 Jan 2011, 17:48
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While we're getting nasty... How about all these multi-line adress signatures and favorite quotes that take up so much space. Who cares? I hate cutting those out all the time. Why…
07 Jan 2011, 14:25
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