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Dan'l Danehy-Oakes14 Jul 2008, 15:46as archived
Summa Contra Hieros
When you come right down to it. Isn't what the Hiero-Foos are doing, the same thing Mr. Million/Maitre/Number 5 do, only on a cosmic scale? Rather than warping their own children to ensure their own repetition they are warping entire cosmic cycles to do so. If what the Line of Millions do in "Cerberus" is wrong, then what the Hiero-Foos do is insanely wrong.
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b sharp14 Jul 2008, 18:36as archived
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When you come right down to it. Isn't what the Hiero-Foos are doing, the same thing Mr. Million/Maitre/Number 5 do, only on a cosmic scale?
Rather than warping their own children to ensure their own repetition they are warping entire cosmic cycles to do so.
If what the Line of Millions do in "Cerberus" is wrong, then what the Hiero-Foos do is insanely wrong.
Hah! DDO, you'll get no argument from me. Personally I tend to value the results of natural selection over carefully planned and engineered products. But forced as I am to play Angel's Advocate I must say no, the Hiero-foos are superhuman and know just what the results of their tampering will be. Mr. Million was human (originally) and (obviously) did not know what the results of his experiments would be. Gosh, his offspring are so much meaner than he is. I guess nurture matters after all ;-). _________________________________________________________________ The i’m Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world? http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_ChangeWorld
Paul B14 Jul 2008, 19:38as archived
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You persist in making unwarranted assumptions. Tzadkiel says, and I doubt you'll claim he's lying in this case, that he made a probabilistic guess about Severian, which did indeed turn out right. Ergo, even a Hierogrammate's foresight is not perfect. If you intend on making unusual claims about various properties of the Hierogrammates, be it angel-hood or omniscience, please substantiate them with some references. Paul
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On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 2:36 PM, b sharp <bsharporflat at hotmail.com> wrote: Dan'l Danehy-Oakes posts:
When you come right down to it. Isn't what the Hiero-Foos are doing, the same thing Mr. Million/Maitre/Number 5 do, only on a cosmic scale?
Rather than warping their own children to ensure their own repetition they are warping entire cosmic cycles to do so.
If what the Line of Millions do in "Cerberus" is wrong, then what the Hiero-Foos do is insanely wrong.
Hah! DDO, you'll get no argument from me. Personally I tend to value the results of natural selection over carefully planned and engineered products. But forced as I am to play Angel's Advocate I must say no, the Hiero-foos are superhuman and know just what the results of their tampering will be. Mr. Million was human (originally) and (obviously) did not know what the results of his experiments would be. Gosh, his offspring are so much meaner than he is. I guess nurture matters after all ;-). _________________________________________________________________ The i'm Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world? http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_ChangeWorld _______________________________________________

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