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"Another ancient greek of the same name"

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David_Lebling23 Jun 1999, 09:08originalas archived
"Another ancient greek of the same name"
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Roy C. Lackey wrote: Jonas says: "I know where we are," ... "and raised one arm stiffly to point toward something I had taken to be a folding screen." Sev asks where, and Jonas answers "On Urth", then walks across the room to the panels.
I've always taken this to mean that only at that moment does Jonas realize that he's on Earth, rather than some very odd colony world. His knowledge is obviously based on reading the odd glyphs (there must be mirror-teleporters all over the galaxy). Perhaps this is too simplistic a reading, but I have a mental picture of the software that does his speech having a slot for "the planet I'm on = 'Urth'", "the home world = 'Earth'"; but of course, the two are homophones, so Severian is a bit confused when Jonas says "On <the home world>." Dave Lebling (aka vizcacha)
Roy C. Lackey23 Jun 1999, 16:55originalas archived
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vizcacha wrote: Roy C. Lackey wrote:
Jonas says: "I know where we are," ... "and raised one arm stiffly to point toward something I had taken to be a folding screen." Sev asks where, and Jonas answers "On Urth", then walks across the room to the panels.
I've always taken this to mean that only at that moment does Jonas realize that
he's on Earth, rather than some very odd colony world. His knowledge is obviously based on reading the odd glyphs (there must be mirror-teleporters all over the galaxy). Perhaps this is too simplistic a reading, but I have a mental picture of the software that does his speech having a slot for "the planet I'm on ='Urth'", "the home world = 'Earth'"; but of course, the two are homophones, so Severian is a bit confused when Jonas says "On <the home world>." << David, I can only give you my word as assurance that I did not rip you off for the homophone angle. I wrote my earlier post last night but did not send it until today. When I checked the urth list this afternoon I saw that you had posted a similar idea this morning. Bad timing on my part--and it's not the first time such a thing has happened to me. Perhaps we can just chalk it up to the old saw about great minds thinking alike. <g> Roy
Peter Stephenson24 Jun 1999, 09:12originalas archived
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"Roy C. Lackey" wrote: vizcacha wrote: Perhaps this is too simplistic a reading, but I have a mental picture of the software that does his speech having a slot for "the planet I'm on ='Urth'", "the home world = 'Earth'"; but of course, the two are homophones, so Severian is a bit confused when Jonas says "On <the home world>." << Perhaps we can just chalk it up to the old saw about great minds thinking alike. <g>
This was going through my mind, too, and it seems to tie up the loose end in the most plausible. It's the sort of mistake Severian makes a lot. Nice way of illustrating that even if (as Thackeray kept insisting) the narrator is omniscient, he still doesn't know everything :-). corncrake

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