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Borski's 5HOC site

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aaron09 Jul 2007, 14:30as archived
Borski's 5HOC site
Just curious to see if Borski's 5HOC site works for anyone here. Each time I have tried to visit, I get a forbidden message. It is very frustrating as I really want to read some of the content there. If the site is dead, are there any places on the web where I can read some of the essays etc. that were once kept on the site? Thanks in advance for any help. Aaron Singleton
Nigel Price09 Jul 2007, 15:31as archived
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No, I can't get onto Robert Borski's "Cave Canem" website anymore either. I haven't been able to contact him by e-mail or telephone, though I've tried both and I know that others have too. I hope that he's all right. My best guess is that he wants a bit of privacy at the moment. I'd be very pleased to hear news of him. My only "contact" with Robert for some while has been buying his books! Nigel
Rex Lycanthrosaurus10 Jul 2007, 14:51as archived
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Several months ago I was able to touch base with Mr. Borski via the strangehorizons site, where quite a bit of his poetry has been appearing lately, and he told me Cave Canem has always been available as a download from a gmail account he set up expressly for that purpose. Apparently, someone here is supposed to pass the word every time a request comes up. I just tested the link and it remains valid, so for those interested, after you go to gmail.com, login with the following particulars: Username = rborski Password = CaveCanem I was also told that hard copies of the Concordance remain available from siriusfiction "for a pittance" and that a synthesis of the Cave Canem essays, containing Borski's most recent thinking about Fifth Head, can be found in his second book. Wonder at the same time if there's any way the Cave Canem material--with permission--could be wikified? On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 10:30:27 -0400, "aaron" <aaronsingleton at gmail.com> said:
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Just curious to see if Borski's 5HOC site works for anyone here. Each time I have tried to visit, I get a forbidden message. It is very frustrating as I really want to read some of the content there. If the site is dead, are there any places on the web where I can read some of the essays etc. that were once kept on the site? Thanks in advance for any help.
Rex Lycanthrosaurus lycanthrosaurus at fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html
Mo Holkar / UKG10 Jul 2007, 15:32as archived
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At 15:51 10/07/2007, you wrote: Several months ago I was able to touch base with Mr. Borski via the strangehorizons site, where quite a bit of his poetry has been appearing lately, and he told me Cave Canem has always been available as a download from a gmail account he set up expressly for that purpose. Apparently, someone here is supposed to pass the word every time a request comes up. I just tested the link and it remains valid, so for those interested, after you go to gmail.com, login with the following particulars: Username = rborski Password = CaveCanem
That's very kind of him!
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I was also told that hard copies of the Concordance remain available from siriusfiction "for a pittance" and that a synthesis of the Cave Canem essays, containing Borski's most recent thinking about Fifth Head, can be found in his second book. Wonder at the same time if there's any way the Cave Canem material--with permission--could be wikified?
I've now downloaded a copy to read myself, and would be very happy to put it up onto WolfeWiki if his permission can be sought and obtained, Mo
aaron10 Jul 2007, 23:07as archived
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That is a great idea. I would never have thought of using gmail's huge free storage for such a purpose. Aaron
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On 7/10/07, Mo Holkar / UKG <lists at ukg.co.uk> wrote: At 15:51 10/07/2007, you wrote:
Several months ago I was able to touch base with Mr. Borski via the strangehorizons site, where quite a bit of his poetry has been appearing lately, and he told me Cave Canem has always been available as a download from a gmail account he set up expressly for that purpose. Apparently, someone here is supposed to pass the word every time a request comes up. I just tested the link and it remains valid, so for those interested, after you go to gmail.com, login with the following particulars: Username = rborski Password = CaveCanem
That's very kind of him!
I was also told that hard copies of the Concordance remain available from siriusfiction "for a pittance" and that a synthesis of the Cave Canem essays, containing Borski's most recent thinking about Fifth Head, can be found in his second book. Wonder at the same time if there's any way the Cave Canem material--with permission--could be wikified?
I've now downloaded a copy to read myself, and would be very happy to put it up onto WolfeWiki if his permission can be sought and obtained, Mo _______________________________________________
Dan'l Danehy-Oakes10 Jul 2007, 23:30as archived
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OK, and there's also this family tree in there, in which it appears that Severian is his own grampaw. WTF???
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On 7/10/07, Rex Lycanthrosaurus <lycanthrosaurus at fastmail.fm> wrote: Several months ago I was able to touch base with Mr. Borski via the strangehorizons site, where quite a bit of his poetry has been appearing lately, and he told me Cave Canem has always been available as a download from a gmail account he set up expressly for that purpose. Apparently, someone here is supposed to pass the word every time a request comes up. I just tested the link and it remains valid, so for those interested, after you go to gmail.com, login with the following particulars: Username = rborski Password = CaveCanem I was also told that hard copies of the Concordance remain available from siriusfiction "for a pittance" and that a synthesis of the Cave Canem essays, containing Borski's most recent thinking about Fifth Head, can be found in his second book. Wonder at the same time if there's any way the Cave Canem material--with permission--could be wikified? On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 10:30:27 -0400, "aaron" <aaronsingleton at gmail.com> said:
Just curious to see if Borski's 5HOC site works for anyone here. Each time I have tried to visit, I get a forbidden message. It is very frustrating as I really want to read some of the content there. If the site is dead, are there any places on the web where I can read some of the essays etc. that were once kept on the site? Thanks in advance for any help.
-- Rex Lycanthrosaurus lycanthrosaurus at fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html _______________________________________________
Gwern Branwen14 Jul 2007, 06:39as archived
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On 0, Mo Holkar / UKG <lists at ukg.co.uk> scribbled:
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At 15:51 10/07/2007, you wrote:
Several months ago I was able to touch base with Mr. Borski via the strangehorizons site, where quite a bit of his poetry has been appearing lately, and he told me Cave Canem has always been available as a download from a gmail account he set up expressly for that purpose. Apparently, someone here is supposed to pass the word every time a request comes up. I just tested the link and it remains valid, so for those interested, after you go to gmail.com, login with the following particulars: Username = rborski Password = CaveCanem
That's very kind of him!
I was also told that hard copies of the Concordance remain available from siriusfiction "for a pittance" and that a synthesis of the Cave Canem essays, containing Borski's most recent thinking about Fifth Head, can be found in his second book. Wonder at the same time if there's any way the Cave Canem material--with permission--could be wikified?
I've now downloaded a copy to read myself, and would be very happy to put it up onto WolfeWiki if his permission can be sought and obtained, Mo
If you do ask, make sure you get a decent license for the corpus. Copyright is a very treacherous thing, with many arbitrary and nasty rules (I especially like how derivative works must be licensed under the most restrictive license applied to any of its constituents, or the copyright by default regime). If it goes on the wiki, people will be editing it, hopefully, and incorporating it into other pages, so if it has a proprietary or non-commercial license, it'll sooner or later contaminate other pages.
gwern "A beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care that the balances are correct. This every sister of the Bene Gesserit knows..."
Daniel D Jones14 Jul 2007, 14:20as archived
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On Saturday 14 July 2007 02:39, Gwern Branwen wrote: On 0, Mo Holkar / UKG <lists at ukg.co.uk> scribbled:
I've now downloaded a copy to read myself, and would be very happy to put it up onto WolfeWiki if his permission can be sought and obtained, Mo
If you do ask, make sure you get a decent license for the corpus. Copyright is a very treacherous thing, with many arbitrary and nasty rules (I especially like how derivative works must be licensed under the most restrictive license applied to any of its constituents, or the copyright by default regime). If it goes on the wiki, people will be editing it, hopefully, and incorporating it into other pages, so if it has a proprietary or non-commercial license, it'll sooner or later contaminate other pages. -- gwern "A beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care that the balances are correct. This every sister of the Bene Gesserit knows..."
I think the best thing to do for cases like this would be for the admin to lock the pages and disallow editing, and to put an introduction at the top with attribution to Borski and explaining why editing is not allowed.

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