King

Gene Wolfe mentions King a number of times. Some of those are clearly Stephen King. SK is usually taken as an entertainer rather than a Writer (not by me, since my knowledge on the matter is nil). Has Wolfe's endorsement been analyzed? (F.i., people will discuss his appreciation of Lafferty.) _______________________________________________

On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Piotr Szcz?sny <neternalz at gmail.com> wrote: I only know one Stephen King in Wolfe works. In "From the desk of Gilmer C. Merton" where he is clearly mentioned as horror story writer - Steven E. Presley. 2014-05-29 12:02 GMT+02:00 Ant?nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com>: Gene Wolfe mentions King a number of times. Some of those are clearly Stephen King. SK is usually taken as an entertainer rather than a Writer (not by me, since my knowledge on the matter is nil). Has Wolfe's endorsement been analyzed? (F.i., people will discuss his appreciation of Lafferty.)

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I just saw him mention King for the first time the other day (at least I think he meant* Stephen* King). It's in Castle of Days, a very clever little self-interview piece called 'Lone Wolfe' (from 1983 it says). Here's the relevant excerpt: *Q: You have the reputation of being one of the nicest guys in the field. We both know you're a hyena on its hind legs. How have you fooled everyone?* A: By keeping my mouth shut when I read garbage. Q: Have you found that difficult? A: No. I'm constantly running into people who've read bad books clean to the end. I admire them more than I can say, but I can't do that - when I get shit in my eyes I close them fast and cry. Q: You also throw the book at the wall and scare the dog. A: Yeah. And then when somebody asks me how I liked the book, I say I haven't read it, because it's really not fair for me to judge without finishing the book. Maybe the last nine-tenths is marvelous. But I doubt it. Q: Leaving aside the people you've already named [earlier he'd said he'd read a lot of Lafferty, Le Guin, Knight, Wilhelm, and Budrys and also thought Little, Big was 'an education in modern fantasy all by itself'], who doesn't make you toss the book at the wall? A: Lord Dunsany, Chesterton-- Q: I know, Dickens. Let's keep the dead out of this. A: Ellison, Leiber, King, Singer, lots of good people. Then 'they' change the subject. I assume he's talking about SK. If so, that's a fairly ringing endorsement from Wolfe - SK's fiction is not garbage and thus doesn't merit being thrown against the wall! Does anyone know who Singer could be? -DOJP On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Piotr Szcz?sny <neternalz at gmail.com>wrote:

I only know one Stephen King in Wolfe works. In "From the desk of Gilmer C. Merton" where he is clearly mentioned as horror story writer - Steven E. Presley. 2014-05-29 12:02 GMT+02:00 Ant?nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com>: Gene Wolfe mentions King a number of times. Some of those are clearly Stephen King. SK is usually taken as an entertainer rather than a Writer (not by me, since my knowledge on the matter is nil). Has Wolfe's endorsement been analyzed? (F.i., people will discuss his appreciation of Lafferty.)

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On May 29, 2014 8:34 AM, "Piotr Szcz?sny" <neternalz at gmail.com> wrote: I think he means Isaac Singer, author of "Shadows on the hudson" and "The Magician of Lublin". Also I checked - Singer was still alive in 1983. 2014-05-29 13:45 GMT+02:00 Daniel Otto Jack Petersen < danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com>:

I just saw him mention King for the first time the other day (at least I think he meant* Stephen* King). It's in Castle of Days, a very clever little self-interview piece called 'Lone Wolfe' (from 1983 it says). Here's the relevant excerpt: *Q: You have the reputation of being one of the nicest guys in the field. We both know you're a hyena on its hind legs. How have you fooled everyone?* A: By keeping my mouth shut when I read garbage. Q: Have you found that difficult? *A: No. I'm constantly running into people who've read bad books clean to the end. I admire them more than I can say, but I can't do that - when I get shit in my eyes I close them fast and cry.* Q: You also throw the book at the wall and scare the dog. A: Yeah. And then when somebody asks me how I liked the book, I say I haven't read it, because it's really not fair for me to judge without finishing the book. Maybe the last nine-tenths is marvelous. But I doubt it. Q: Leaving aside the people you've already named [earlier he'd said he'd read a lot of Lafferty, Le Guin, Knight, Wilhelm, and Budrys and also thought Little, Big was 'an education in modern fantasy all by itself'], who doesn't make you toss the book at the wall? A: Lord Dunsany, Chesterton-- Q: I know, Dickens. Let's keep the dead out of this. A: Ellison, Leiber, King, Singer, lots of good people. Then 'they' change the subject. I assume he's talking about SK. If so, that's a fairly ringing endorsement from Wolfe - SK's fiction is not garbage and thus doesn't merit being thrown against the wall! Does anyone know who Singer could be? -DOJP On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Piotr Szcz?sny <neternalz at gmail.com> wrote:

I only know one Stephen King in Wolfe works. In "From the desk of Gilmer C. Merton" where he is clearly mentioned as horror story writer - Steven E. Presley. 2014-05-29 12:02 GMT+02:00 Ant?nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com>: Gene Wolfe mentions King a number of times. Some of those are clearly Stephen King. SK is usually taken as an entertainer rather than a Writer (not by me, since my knowledge on the matter is nil). Has Wolfe's endorsement been analyzed? (F.i., people will discuss his appreciation of Lafferty.)

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At 12:45 29/05/2014, you wrote: A: Ellison, Leiber, King, Singer, lots of good people. Then 'they' change the subject. — I assume he's talking about SK. — If so, that's a fairly ringing endorsement from Wolfe - SK's fiction is not garbage and thus doesn't merit being thrown against the wall! ? Does anyone know who Singer could be? -DOJP On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Piotr Szcz??sny <<mailto:neternalz at gmail.com>neternalz at gmail.com> wrote: I only know one Stephen King in Wolfe works. In "From the desk of Gilmer C. Merton" where he is? clearly? mentioned — as horror story writer - Steven E. Presley. 2014-05-29 12:02 GMT+02:00 Ant??nio Pedro Marques <<mailto:entonio at gmail.com>entonio at gmail.com>: Gene Wolfe mentions King a number of times. Some of those are clearly Stephen King. SK is usually taken as an entertainer rather than a Writer (not by me, since my knowledge on the matter is nil). Has Wolfe's endorsement been analyzed? (F.i., people will discuss his appreciation of Lafferty.) _______________________________________________

Q: Leaving aside the people you've already named [earlier he'd said he'd read a lot of Lafferty, Le Guin, Knight, Wilhelm, and Budrys and also thought Little, Big was 'an education in modern fantasy all by itself'], who doesn't make you toss the book at the wall? A: Lord Dunsany, Chesterton-- Q: I know, Dickens. Let's keep the dead out of this. A: Ellison, Leiber, King, Singer, lots of good people. Then 'they' change the subject. I assume he's talking about SK. If so, that's a fairly ringing endorsement from Wolfe - SK's fiction is not garbage and thus doesn't merit being thrown against the wall!

On 5/29/2014 6:26 AM, Piotr Szcze;sny wrote: I only know one Stephen King in Wolfe works. In "From the desk of Gilmer C. Merton" where he is clearly mentioned as horror story writer - Steven E. Presley. 2014-05-29 12:02 GMT+02:00 Ant?nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com <mailto:entonio at gmail.com>>: Gene Wolfe mentions King a number of times. Some of those are clearly Stephen King. SK is usually taken as an entertainer rather than a Writer (not by me, since my knowledge on the matter is nil). Has Wolfe's endorsement been analyzed? (F.i., people will discuss his appreciation of Lafferty.) _______________________________________________

On Thu, May 29, 2014 07:34, Piotr Szcz?sny wrote: I think he means Isaac Singer, author of "Shadows on the hudson" and "The Magician of Lublin". Also I checked - Singer was still alive in 1983.

On Thursday, May 29, 2014 8:43 AM, Antonin Scriabin <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com> wrote: Glad he liked Little, Big. Makes me happy. On May 29, 2014 8:34 AM, "Piotr Szcz?sny" <neternalz at gmail.com> wrote: I think he means Isaac Singer, author of "Shadows on the hudson" and "The Magician of Lublin". Also I checked - Singer was still alive in 1983.

2014-05-29 13:45 GMT+02:00 Daniel Otto Jack Petersen <danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com>: I just saw him mention King for the first time the other day (at least I think he meantStephen King). “It's in Castle of Days, a very clever little self-interview piece called 'Lone Wolfe' (from 1983 it says). ?Here's the relevant excerpt:

Q: You have the reputation of being one of the nicest guys in the field. ?We both know you're a hyena on its hind legs. ?How have you fooled everyone” A: By keeping my mouth shut when I read garbage. Q: Have you found that difficult? A: No. ?I'm constantly running into people who've read bad books clean to the end. ?I admire them more than I can say, but I can't do that - when I get shit in my eyes I close them fast and cry. Q: You also throw the book at the wall and scare the dog. A: Yeah. ?And then when somebody asks me how I liked the book, I say I haven't read it, because it's really not fair for me to judge without finishing the book. ?Maybe the last nine-tenths is marvelous. ?But I doubt it. Q: Leaving aside the people you've already named [earlier he'd said he'd read a lot of Lafferty, Le Guin, Knight, Wilhelm, and Budrys and also thoughtLittle, Big was 'an education in modern fantasy all by itself'], whodoesn't make you toss the book at the wall? A: Lord Dunsany, Chesterton-- Q: I know, Dickens. “Let's keep the dead out of this. A: Ellison, Leiber, King, Singer, lots of good people. Then 'they' change the subject. ?I assume he's talking about SK. ?If so, that's a fairly ringing endorsement from Wolfe - SK's fiction is not garbage and thus doesn't merit being thrown against the wall! ? Does anyone know who Singer could be” -DOJP On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Piotr Szcz?sny <neternalz at gmail.com> wrote: I only know one Stephen King in Wolfe works. In "From the desk of Gilmer C. Merton" where he is clearly?mentioned “as horror story writer - Steven E. Presley.”

2014-05-29 12:02 GMT+02:00 Ant?nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com>: Gene Wolfe mentions King a number of times. Some of those are clearly Stephen King. SK is usually taken as an entertainer rather than a Writer (not by me, since my knowledge on the matter is nil). Has Wolfe's endorsement been analyzed? (F.i., people will discuss his appreciation of Lafferty.)

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