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Short Story 3 title correction: The Grave Secret
My apologies, the third story is "the Grave Secret"
Story #4 is "The Dead Man"
Anyone who asked to receive the stories but did not please let me know.
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Short Story 3 title correction: The Grave Secret
↳ in reply to
Marc Aramini
These are really enjoyable so far, Marc. Thanks. (Is it too late to get in on receiving these early stories you're referencing?)
-DOJP
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On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote: My apologies, the third story is "the Grave Secret"
Story #4 is "The Dead Man"
Anyone who asked to receive the stories but did not please let me know.
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↳ in reply to
Marc Aramini
I would like the list, please.
On Mar 25, 2012 1:03 AM, "Marc Aramini" <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote:
My apologies, the third story is "the Grave Secret"
Story #4 is "The Dead Man"
Anyone who asked to receive the stories but did not please let me know.
↳ in reply to
Marc Aramini
The Grave Secret is not a serious story, and yet is not so bad in some ways. Detailed, but clumsy. I'd be proud of it if it were mine, but I'd clean it up first. And it could be funnier; it gestures toward humor but does not achieve it.
And silly too. How did the ghost perform the necessary magic? Best not to think about it.
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On 3/25/2012 1:03 AM, Marc Aramini wrote:
My apologies, the third story is "the Grave Secret"
Story #4 is "The Dead Man"
Anyone who asked to receive the stories but did not please let me know.
_______________________________________________
↳ in reply to
David Stockhoff
"The Grave Secret" is basically a good Weird Tales entry for the classic 30s/40s incarnation of that magazine.
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On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:38 AM, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net> wrote: The Grave Secret is not a serious story, and yet is not so bad in some ways. Detailed, but clumsy. I'd be proud of it if it were mine, but I'd clean it up first. And it could be funnier; it gestures toward humor but does not achieve it.
And silly too. How did the ghost perform the necessary magic? Best not to think about it.
On 3/25/2012 1:03 AM, Marc Aramini wrote:
My apologies, the third story is "the Grave Secret"
Story #4 is "The Dead Man"
Anyone who asked to receive the stories but did not please let me know.
_______________________________________________
↳ in reply to
Dan'l Danehy-Oakes
That must have been before science fiction was able to afford editors. ;)
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On 4/4/2012 1:43 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:
"The Grave Secret" is basically a good Weird Tales entry for the classic 30s/40s incarnation of that magazine.
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:38 AM, David Stockhoff<dstockhoff at verizon.net> wrote:
The Grave Secret is not a serious story, and yet is not so bad in some ways. Detailed, but clumsy. I'd be proud of it if it were mine, but I'd clean it up first. And it could be funnier; it gestures toward humor but does not achieve it.
And silly too. How did the ghost perform the necessary magic? Best not to think about it.
On 3/25/2012 1:03 AM, Marc Aramini wrote:
My apologies, the third story is "the Grave Secret"
Story #4 is "The Dead Man"
Anyone who asked to receive the stories but did not please let me know.
_______________________________________________
↳ in reply to
David Stockhoff
A Cthulhu Mythos story by Clark Ashton Smith, THE RETURN OF THE
SORCERER, may have been the origin of this one. Working as a translator
for a John Carnby, the narrator reads from the original Arabic Necronomicon:
'It is verily known by few, but is nevertheless no attestable fact, that the will of a dead sorcerer hath power upon his own body and can raise it up from the tomb and perform therewith whatever action was unfulfilled in life. And such resurrections are invariably for the doing of malevolent deeds and for the detriment of other's. Most readily can the corpse be animated if all its members have remained intact; and yet there are cases in which the excelling will of the wizard hath reared up from death the sundered pieces of a body hewn in many fragments, and hath caused them to serve his end, either separately or in a temporary reunion. But in every instance, after the action hath been completed, the body lapseth into its former state.'
This is of course exactly what happens to the protagonist of The Grave Secret.
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On 4/4/2012 2:03 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:
That must have been before science fiction was able to afford editors. ;)
On 4/4/2012 1:43 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:
"The Grave Secret" is basically a good Weird Tales entry for the classic 30s/40s incarnation of that magazine.
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:38 AM, David
Stockhoff<dstockhoff at verizon.net> wrote:
The Grave Secret is not a serious story, and yet is not so bad in some ways. Detailed, but clumsy. I'd be proud of it if it were mine, but I'd clean it up first. And it could be funnier; it gestures toward humor but does not achieve it.
And silly too. How did the ghost perform the necessary magic? Best not to think about it.
On 3/25/2012 1:03 AM, Marc Aramini wrote:
My apologies, the third story is "the Grave Secret"
Story #4 is "The Dead Man"
Anyone who asked to receive the stories but did not please let me know.
_______________________________________________
↳ in reply to
David Stockhoff
I agree completely. my allusion section read:
ALLUSIONS: Clark Ashton Smith in such necromantic works as The Return of the Sorcerer and HP Lovecraft are channeled directly here
oh yeah. [Hi C man busts through wall]
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--- On Tue, 5/1/12, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net> wrote: From: David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net> Subject: Re: (urth) Short Story 3 title correction: The Grave Secret To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth at lists.urth.net> Date: Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 3:14 PM A Cthulhu Mythos story by Clark Ashton Smith, THE RETURN OF THE SORCERER, may have been the origin of this one. Working as a translator for a John Carnby, the narrator reads from the original Arabic Necronomicon:
'It is verily known by few, but is nevertheless no
attestable fact, that the will of a dead sorcerer hath power
upon his own body and can raise it up from the tomb and
perform therewith whatever action was unfulfilled in life.
And such resurrections are invariably for the doing of
malevolent deeds and for the detriment of other's. Most
readily can the corpse be animated if all its members have
remained intact; and yet there are cases in which the
excelling will of the wizard hath reared up from death the
sundered pieces of a body hewn in many fragments, and hath
caused them to serve his end, either separately or in a
temporary reunion. But in every instance, after the action
hath been completed, the body lapseth into its former
state.'
This is of course exactly what happens to the protagonist of
The Grave Secret.
On 4/4/2012 2:03 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:
That must have been before science fiction was able to
afford editors. ;)
On 4/4/2012 1:43 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:
"The Grave Secret" is basically a good _Weird
Tales_ entry for the
classic 30s/40s incarnation of that magazine.
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:38 AM, David
Stockhoff<dstockhoff at verizon.net>?
wrote:
The Grave Secret is not a serious story, and
yet is not so bad in some ways.
Detailed, but clumsy. I'd be proud of it if it
were mine, but I'd clean it
up first. And it could be funnier; it gestures
toward humor but does not
achieve it.
And silly too. How did the ghost perform the
necessary magic? Best not to
think about it.
On 3/25/2012 1:03 AM, Marc Aramini wrote:
My apologies, the third story is "the Grave
Secret"
Story #4 is "The Dead Man"
Anyone who asked to receive the stories but
did not please let me know.
_______________________________________________
↳ in reply to
Marc Aramini
;)
I suppose everybody already knows about the debt to Lovecraft's Innsmouth story owed by An Evil Guest and A Tree Is My Hat?
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On 5/1/2012 7:17 PM, Marc Aramini wrote:
I agree completely. my allusion section read:
ALLUSIONS: Clark Ashton Smith in such necromantic works as The Return of the Sorcerer and HP Lovecraft are channeled directly here
oh yeah. [Hi C man busts through wall]
--- On Tue, 5/1/12, David Stockhoff<dstockhoff at verizon.net> wrote:
From: David Stockhoff<dstockhoff at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: (urth) Short Story 3 title correction: The Grave Secret To: "The Urth Mailing List"<urth at lists.urth.net> Date: Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 3:14 PM A Cthulhu Mythos story by Clark Ashton Smith, THE RETURN OF THE SORCERER, may have been the origin of this one. Working as a translator for a John Carnby, the narrator reads from the original Arabic Necronomicon:
'It is verily known by few, but is nevertheless no
attestable fact, that the will of a dead sorcerer hath power
upon his own body and can raise it up from the tomb and
perform therewith whatever action was unfulfilled in life.
And such resurrections are invariably for the doing of
malevolent deeds and for the detriment of other's. Most
readily can the corpse be animated if all its members have
remained intact; and yet there are cases in which the
excelling will of the wizard hath reared up from death the
sundered pieces of a body hewn in many fragments, and hath
caused them to serve his end, either separately or in a
temporary reunion. But in every instance, after the action
hath been completed, the body lapseth into its former
state.'
This is of course exactly what happens to the protagonist of
The Grave Secret.
On 4/4/2012 2:03 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:
That must have been before science fiction was able to
afford editors. ;)
On 4/4/2012 1:43 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:
"The Grave Secret" is basically a good _Weird
Tales_ entry for the
classic 30s/40s incarnation of that magazine.
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:38 AM, David
Stockhoff<dstockhoff at verizon.net>
wrote:
The Grave Secret is not a serious story, and
yet is not so bad in some ways.
Detailed, but clumsy. I'd be proud of it if it
were mine, but I'd clean it
up first. And it could be funnier; it gestures
toward humor but does not
achieve it.
And silly too. How did the ghost perform the
necessary magic? Best not to
think about it.
On 3/25/2012 1:03 AM, Marc Aramini wrote:
My apologies, the third story is "the Grave
Secret"
Story #4 is "The Dead Man"
Anyone who asked to receive the stories but
did not please let me know.
_______________________________________________
↳ in reply to
Marc Aramini
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On 5/1/2012 6:17 PM, Marc Aramini wrote:
I agree completely. my allusion section read:
ALLUSIONS: Clark Ashton Smith in such necromantic works as The Return of the Sorcerer and HP Lovecraft are channeled directly here
oh yeah. [Hi C man busts through wall]
Jeff Wilson - jwilson at clueland.com
Computational Intelligence Laboratory - Texas A&M Texarkana
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