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No dia 21/10/2014, ?s 15:50, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> escreveu:
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Gyoll does undoubtedly carry many a corpse anyway.
Has the name 'Gyoll' been analysed?
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TBOTNS fan cover art
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António Pedro Marques
Maybe something to do with Sheol?
Rick Norwood
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No dia 21/10/2014, ?s 15:50, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> escreveu:
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Gyoll does undoubtedly carry many a corpse anyway.
Has the name 'Gyoll' been analysed?
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Norwood, Frederick Hudson
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From http://bit.ly/1x8WbXR:
"Gyoll is a great river which runs through the city, in which the apprentices have just been swimming. Its name is probably a reference to the Norse Gjoll, a river which symbolized death and ran near the gates of Hel — not unlike the Greek Styx."
Mark
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On Wed, Oct 22, 2014, at 02:37 PM, Norwood, Frederick Hudson wrote: Maybe something to do with Sheol?
Rick Norwood
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Mark Lewin: "Gyoll is a great river which runs through the city, in which the apprentices have just been swimming. Its name is probably a reference to the Norse Gjoll, a river which symbolized death and ran near the gates of Hel — not unlike the Greek Styx."
Yes.
Gj?ll is also the name of the rock to which the monstrous Norse wolf, Fenrir is chained. Not a reference that can be ignored when it comes to this particular author.
Furthermore, that river is likely represented in our world by the Rio De La Plata. The proximity to Buenos Aires (Nessus) and its estuarial nature jibes with the presence of some oceanic beings who would seem to appear in Gyoll.
A single literary element serving double or triple duty seems common in the works of Gene Wolfe.
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http://www.adijuhaszart.com/shadowclaw/
Thought this was cool, not sure if it has made the rounds here yet. I
love the imagery of the New Sun "drowning" in what looks like the
flooding Gyoll. Maybe a more appropriate cover for The Citadel of the
Autarch or Sword and Citadel, but still neat.
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Lee
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On 10/20/2014 10:03 PM, Antonin Scriabin wrote:
http://www.adijuhaszart.com/shadowclaw/
Thought this was cool, not sure if it has made the rounds here yet. I love the imagery of the New Sun "drowning" in what looks like the flooding Gyoll. Maybe a more appropriate cover for The Citadel of the Autarch or Sword and Citadel, but still neat.
I would guess that is Sev tumbling into the bog in the Botanic Gardens where he finds Dorcas among the other preserved corpses.
Jeff Wilson - < jwilson at clueland.com >
A&M Texarkana Computational Intelligence Lab
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