Wolfe Man [John J. Miller]
Today's Between the Covers podcast is with Gene Wolfe
<http://radio.nationalreview.com/betweenthecovers/post/?q=MmQ2ZjA2OGE4ZWNmZjBkMGQ1MjRjYjlhOTA4YmU2OWE=>,
the legendary science-fiction writer. Here's what /The Encyclopedia of
Science Fiction/ says about him:
Though neither the most popular nor the most influential author in
the sf field, [Wolfe] is today quite possibly the most important.
How's that for an endorsement?
In our interview, we discuss his new anthology of short stories, the book that he thinks will be his legacy, and the influence of G.K. Chesterton on his work. At the end, he says this:
I am a conservative. I certainly read William F. Buckley, Jr. with
delight?I think he mellowed a little too much at the end?He wasn't
as sharp-edged as he really should have been. Perhaps the same thing
will happen to me.
Listen in — and subscribe to the whole BTC series on iTunes!
============================================================= Fernando Q. Gouvea Carter Professor of Mathematics Colby College Editor, MAA FOCUS 5836 Mayflower Hill Editor, MAA Reviews Waterville, ME 04901 http://mathdl.maa.org/mathDL/19/http://www.colby.edu/~fqgouvea
There are no physicists in the hottest parts of hell, because the existence of a "hottest part" implies a temperature difference, and any marginally competent physicist would immediately use this to run a heat engine and make some other part of hell comfortably cool. This is obviously impossible.
-- Richard Davisson
Wolfe: "I think he mellowed a little too much at the end?
He wasn't as sharp-edged as he really should have been. Perhaps the same thing will happen to me.
The man is in his 80s. If he plans to mellow, he'd better get on with it. :-)
J.
I just can't bring myself to support the NRO. Is there a transcript somewhere?
Sent from my iPhone
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On Mar 30, 2009, at 11:44 AM, "Fernando Q. Gouv?a"
<fqgouvea at colby.edu> wrote:
Wolfe Man [John J. Miller]
Today's Between the Covers podcast is with Gene Wolfe <http://radio.nationalreview.com/betweenthecovers/post/?q=MmQ2ZjA2OGE4ZWNmZjBkMGQ1MjRjYjlhOTA4YmU2OWE=
, the legendary science-fiction writer. Here's what /The
Encyclopedia of Science Fiction/ says about him:
Though neither the most popular nor the most influential author in
the sf field, [Wolfe] is today quite possibly the most important.
How's that for an endorsement?
In our interview, we discuss his new anthology of short stories, the book that he thinks will be his legacy, and the influence of G.K. Chesterton on his work. At the end, he says this:
I am a conservative. I certainly read William F. Buckley, Jr. with
delight?I think he mellowed a little too much at the end?He wasn
't
as sharp-edged as he really should have been. Perhaps the same thing
will happen to me.
Listen in — and subscribe to the whole BTC series on iTunes!
--
============================================================= Fernando Q. Gouvea Carter Professor of Mathematics Colby College Editor, MAA FOCUS 5836 Mayflower Hill Editor, MAA Reviews Waterville, ME 04901 http://mathdl.maa.org/mathDL/19/http://www.colby.edu/~fqgouvea
There are no physicists in the hottest parts of hell, because the existence of a "hottest part" implies a temperature difference, and any marginally competent physicist would immediately use this to run a heat engine and make some other part of hell comfortably cool. This is obviously impossible.
-- Richard Davisson
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I just can't bring myself to support the NRO. Is there a transcript somewhere?
I doubt it, but you could listen to the interview at the site and just not click the ads. Then you are just leeching their bandwidth; hoisting them on their own petard, so to speak. If you don't allow yourself to be dusted just a little by evil conservative dandruff, you won't know what you are hating.
BTW It's interesting if not especially enlightening to hear Wolfe's summarization An Evil Guest.
J
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:27 PM, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote:
I doubt it, but you could listen to the interview at the site and just not click the ads. Then you are just leeching their bandwidth; hoisting them on their own petard, so to speak. If you don't allow yourself to be dusted just a little by evil conservative dandruff, you won't know what you are hating.
I can bring myself to visit lefty websites, so surely a short visit to the NRO won't kill anyone?
I love the way this comes up right after the whole "Politics of Gene Wolfe" debacle.
-Matt
If you download it, you're not "supporting" it...you're just (as James put its) "leeching" the bandwidth.
Right click (PC), save target as, give it a name, and you have the .mp3 file. If any ads are iembedded in the show, there's always "fast forward"...
F.P. Kiesche III
"Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always, scribble, scribble, scribble, eh?" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented with Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at The Lensman's Children and TexasBestGrok!
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From: James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: (urth) from National Review Online
To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth at lists.urth.net>
Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 1:27 PM
I just can't bring myself to support the NRO. Is there a transcript somewhere?
I doubt it, but you could listen to the interview at the site and just not click the ads. Then you are just leeching their bandwidth; hoisting them on their own petard, so to speak. If you don't allow yourself to be dusted just a little by evil conservative dandruff, you won't know what you are hating.
BTW It's interesting if not especially enlightening to hear Wolfe's summarization An Evil Guest.
J
I totally bought this. Too bad he doesn't say it ;*(
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On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Son of Witz <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org>wrote: I love the part where he says "All those geeks who can't realize Severian is Christ don't get it, LOL"
~Witz
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I totally bought this. Too bad he doesn't say it ;*(
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Son of Witz <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org>wrote:
I love the part where he says "All those geeks who can't realize Severian is Christ don't get it, LOL"
~Witz
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On Mar 30, 2009, at 1:39 PM, Jordon Flato wrote:
I totally bought this. Too bad he doesn't say it ;*(
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Son of Witz <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org wrote: I love the part where he says "All those geeks who can't realize Severian is Christ don't get it, LOL"
Gene Wolfe saying "LOL" is no more likely than a Wolfe character saying "STFU."
Adam
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Adam Thornton <adam at io.com> wrote:
On Mar 30, 2009, at 1:39 PM, Jordon Flato wrote:
I totally bought this. Too bad he doesn't say it ;*(
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Son of Witz <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org>wrote:
I love the part where he says "All those geeks who can't realize Severian is Christ don't get it, LOL"
Gene Wolfe saying "LOL" is no more likely than a Wolfe character saying "STFU."
Adam
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Wolfe: "I think he mellowed a little too much at the end
He wasn't as sharp-edged as he really should have been. Perhaps the same thing will happen to me.
The man is in his 80s.
Next year he is 80.
Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....
Quite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his birthday and throw a big thing for him?
.
I just can't bring myself to support the NRO. Is there a transcript somewhere?
I doubt it, but you could listen to the interview at the site and just not click the ads. Then you are just leeching their bandwidth; hoisting them on their own petard, so to speak. If you don't allow yourself to be dusted just a little by evil conservative dandruff, you won't know what you are hating.
I was going to say, that is a remarkably ignorant attitude he's got there, but it isn't remarkable at all, is it? Just ignorant.
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BTW It's interesting if not especially enlightening to hear Wolfe's summarization An Evil Guest.
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:27 PM, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote:
I doubt it, but you could listen to the interview at the site and just not click the ads. Then you are just leeching their bandwidth; hoisting them on their own petard, so to speak. If you don't allow yourself to be dusted just a little by evil conservative dandruff, you won't know what you are hating.
I can bring myself to visit lefty websites, so surely a short visit to the NRO won't kill anyone?
I love the way this comes up right after the whole "Politics of Gene Wolfe" debacle.
I thought that was a very lively conversation. I certainly did learn a lot from it.
.
--- On Mon, 3/30/09, Adam Thornton <adam at io.com> wrote:
Gene Wolfe saying "LOL" is no more
likely than a Wolfe character saying
"STFU."
Yeah, WTF? I can't even begin to tell you how wholly satisfying it was to put those four letters in the subject line. Keeping it relevant to Wolfe and trying to answer a question that's been bothering me about AEG was just cake.
Don
brunians at brunians.org wrote:
Wolfe: "I think he mellowed a little too much at the end?
He wasn't as sharp-edged as he really should have been. Perhaps the same thing will happen to me.
The man is in his 80s.
Next year he is 80.
Most sources I can locate list his birthday as May 7, 1931.
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Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....
Quite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his birthday and throw a big thing for him?
I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor.
Wolfe: "I think he mellowed a little too much at the end
He wasn't as sharp-edged as he really should have been. Perhaps the same thing will happen to me.
The man is in his 80s.
Next year he is 80.
Most sources I can locate list his birthday as May 7, 1931.
Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....
Quite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his birthday and throw a big thing for him?
I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor.
Oh, I m sure we would all be on our best behavior. If you don't feel that you can control yourself, by all means, stay away.
I've done this kind of thing before, it can work out well.
.
On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....
Quite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his birthday and throw a big thing for him?
I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor.
Thanks, Fernando -- it's always fun to hear a voice and have an author become a bit more of a real person in my mind!
My favorite part was how he described Chesterson. I've only read The Man Who Was Thursday, but the lyrical yet sharp and insightful style of that book really clicks with what Wolfe says.
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On Mar 30, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Fernando Q. Gouv?a wrote:
Wolfe Man [John J. Miller]
Today's Between the Covers podcast is with Gene Wolfe <http://radio.nationalreview.com/betweenthecovers/post/?q=MmQ2ZjA2OGE4ZWNmZjBkMGQ1MjRjYjlhOTA4YmU2OWE=
, the legendary science-fiction writer. Here's what /The
Encyclopedia of Science Fiction/ says about him:
Though neither the most popular nor the most influential author in
the sf field, [Wolfe] is today quite possibly the most important.
How's that for an endorsement?
In our interview, we discuss his new anthology of short stories, the book that he thinks will be his legacy, and the influence of G.K. Chesterton on his work. At the end, he says this:
I am a conservative. I certainly read William F. Buckley, Jr. with
delight?I think he mellowed a little too much at the end?He wasn't
as sharp-edged as he really should have been. Perhaps the same thing
will happen to me.
Listen in — and subscribe to the whole BTC series on iTunes!
--
============================================================= Fernando Q. Gouvea Carter Professor of Mathematics Colby College Editor, MAA FOCUS 5836 Mayflower Hill Editor, MAA Reviews Waterville, ME 04901 http://mathdl.maa.org/mathDL/19/http://www.colby.edu/~fqgouvea
There are no physicists in the hottest parts of hell, because the existence of a "hottest part" implies a temperature difference, and any marginally competent physicist would immediately use this to run a heat engine and make some other part of hell comfortably cool. This is obviously impossible.
-- Richard Davisson
_______________________________________________
Definitely thanks for the heads up on this!
Personally, I thought it was very typical Wolfe on his answer to the conservative question. Give a straight answer and follow it up with qualifications that ask more questions. What parts of Buckley, exactly, counted as mellowing? Why was he seemingly not perfectly fond of being a conservative in Buckley's image? And why back out of the question with a dismissive, "Oh, you talk about conservatism all the time, you don't want to hear about that."
And was his surprise that BotNS is so popular just modesty? He's said before that he's surprised that people stick with a torturer as a protagonist for so long, but certainly by now, his reputation lets it be known that isn't "just" a torturer, no?
I'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture that he needs.
I was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people thanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written and maybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things for him and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything besides show up.
.
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On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....
Quite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his birthday and throw a big thing for him?
I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor.
I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.
Adam
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Since I already live in the neighborhood, I'd be more than willing to attend and help organize if we get enough people thinking it would be a good thing.
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I'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture that he needs.
I was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people thanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written and maybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things for him and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything besides show up.
.
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On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....
Quite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his birthday and throw a big thing for him?
I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor.
I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.
Adam
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Since I already live in the neighborhood, I'd be more than willing to attend and help organize if we get enough people thinking it would be a good thing.
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I'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture that he needs.
I was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people thanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written and maybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things for him and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything besides show up.
.
On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....
Quite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his birthday and throw a big thing for him?
I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor.
I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.
Adam
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Ah, now that's an even more promising idea, methinks.
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Perhaps a festschrift would be more appropriate?
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On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Craig Brewer <cnbrewer at yahoo.com> wrote:
Since I already live in the neighborhood, I'd be more than willing to attend and help organize if we get enough people thinking it would be a good thing.
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I'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture that he needs.
I was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people thanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written and maybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things for him and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything besides show up.
.
On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....
Quite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his birthday and throw a big thing for him?
I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor.
I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.
Adam
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On Mar 31, 2009, at 10:51 AM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:
I'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture that he needs.
I was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people thanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written and maybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things for him and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything besides show up.
On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....
Quite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his birthday and throw a big thing for him?
I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor.
I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.
Oh, I wasn't going to GIVE them to him. Just throw them. Certainly not AT him!
Adam
Why not organize a festschrift, and have 15-20 authors write short stores in his honor?
Nutria
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At 10:51 AM 3/31/2009, you wrote:
I'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture that he needs.
I was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people thanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written and maybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things for him and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything besides show up.
.
On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....
Quite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his birthday and throw a big thing for him?
I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor.
I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.
Adam
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Or equally appropriate. Indeed, a dedication copy of a
festschrift could easily be presented at the kind of dinner
Josh has in mind.
I imagine Wolfe's children may be planning something, in
which case people would need to join or coordinate with
them.
Jerry Friedman
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On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Craig Brewer
<cnbrewer at yahoo.com> wrote:
Since I already live in the neighborhood, I'd be
more than willing to attend and help organize if we get
enough people thinking it would be a good thing.
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<brunians at brunians.org>
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I'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the
household furniture that he
needs.
I was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and
perhaps people
thanking him for writing all of this great stuff that
he has written and
maybe other things, the idea being that they are
pleasurable things for
him and not anything that requires him to do any work
or anything besides
show up.
.
On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington
bearing tribute....
Quite seriously, why don't we get a
hotel there sometime around his
birthday and throw a big thing for him?
I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a
brawl thrown in his honor.
I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.
Adam
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Very excellent.
Since we have more than two years to plan this out, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be a success.
.
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Since I already live in the neighborhood, I'd be more than willing to attend and help organize if we get enough people thinking it would be a good thing.
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I'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture that he needs.
I was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people thanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written and maybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things for him and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything besides show up.
.
On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....
Quite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his birthday and throw a big thing for him?
I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor.
I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.
Adam
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Is that what it is called?
I like the sound of that!
.
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Perhaps a festschrift would be more appropriate?
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Craig Brewer <cnbrewer at yahoo.com> wrote:
Since I already live in the neighborhood, I'd be more than willing to attend and help organize if we get enough people thinking it would be a good thing.
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I'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture that he needs.
I was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people thanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written and maybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things for him and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything besides show up.
.
On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....
Quite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his birthday and throw a big thing for him?
I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor.
I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.
Adam
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What specifically is a festschrift besides 'a celebration of the writing' as I translate it from the German? Is there a specialized meaning of the term that I am unaware of (as I am unaware of most things)?
.
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Ah, now that's an even more promising idea, methinks.
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Perhaps a festschrift would be more appropriate?
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Since I already live in the neighborhood, I'd be more than willing to attend and help organize if we get enough people thinking it would be a good thing.
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I'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture that he needs.
I was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people thanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written and maybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things for him and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything besides show up.
.
On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....
Quite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his birthday and throw a big thing for him?
I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor.
I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.
Adam
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A festschrift is a book -- usually of essays -- "presented to" someone to celebrate their life and work. This is an academic tradition for a highly-respected colleague.
In the case of Wolfe, it would make sense if it was stories, or a mixture of stories and essays.
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On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:27 AM, <brunians at brunians.org> wrote:
What specifically is a festschrift besides 'a celebration of the writing' as I translate it from the German? Is there a specialized meaning of the term that I am unaware of (as I am unaware of most things)?
.
Ah, now that's an even more promising idea, methinks.
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Since I already live in the neighborhood, I'd be more than willing to attend and help organize if we get enough people thinking it would be a good thing.
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I'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture that he needs.
I was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people thanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written and maybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things for him and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything besides show up.
.
On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....
Quite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his birthday and throw a big thing for him?
I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor.
I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.
Adam
_______________________________________________
I'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture that he needs.
I was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people thanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written and maybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things for him and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything besides show up.
I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor.
Oh, I wasn't going to GIVE them to him. Just throw them. Certainly not AT him!
Well, I don't know anything about doing this. I know I could organize logistics for a dinner/conference. I am wary of committing myself to large amounts of work that I am unfamiliar with.
Besides, this is Gene Wolfe we are talking about: I am sure that both pros and fans are going to be doing similar things already.
That's why not from my end, anyway.
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Why not organize a festschrift, and have 15-20 authors write short stores in his honor?
Nutria
At 10:51 AM 3/31/2009, you wrote:
I'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture that he needs.
I was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people thanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written and maybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things for him and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything besides show up.
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On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....
Quite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his birthday and throw a big thing for him?
I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor.
I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.
Adam
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Absolutely.
As someone pointed out to me in private mail, it would be absolutely required that we had the man's permission for me to be willing to do it. So it might be appropriate for those of you who have direct contact with him to see what plans might be for us to conform to.
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Or equally appropriate. Indeed, a dedication copy of a
festschrift could easily be presented at the kind of dinner
Josh has in mind.
I imagine Wolfe's children may be planning something, in
which case people would need to join or coordinate with
them.
Jerry Friedman
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From: Dan'l Danehy-Oakes <danldo at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: (urth) from National Review Online
To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth at lists.urth.net>
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 9:54 AM
Perhaps a festschrift would be more appropriate?
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Craig Brewer
<cnbrewer at yahoo.com> wrote:
Since I already live in the neighborhood, I'd be
more than willing to attend and help organize if we get
enough people thinking it would be a good thing.
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<brunians at brunians.org>
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I'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the
household furniture that he
needs.
I was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and
perhaps people
thanking him for writing all of this great stuff that
he has written and
maybe other things, the idea being that they are
pleasurable things for
him and not anything that requires him to do any work
or anything besides
show up.
.
On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington
bearing tribute....
Quite seriously, why don't we get a
hotel there sometime around his
birthday and throw a big thing for him?
I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a
brawl thrown in his honor.
I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.
Adam
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A festschrift is a book -- usually of essays -- "presented to" someone to celebrate their life and work. This is an academic tradition for a highly-respected colleague.
In the case of Wolfe, it would make sense if it was stories, or a mixture of stories and essays.
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:27 AM, <brunians at brunians.org> wrote:
What specifically is a festschrift besides 'a celebration of the writing' as I translate it from the German? Is there a specialized meaning of the term that I am unaware of (as I am unaware of most things)?
.
Ah, now that's an even more promising idea, methinks.
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Perhaps a festschrift would be more appropriate?
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Craig Brewer <cnbrewer at yahoo.com> wrote:
Since I already live in the neighborhood, I'd be more than willing to attend and help organize if we get enough people thinking it would be a good thing.
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Subject: Re: (urth) from National Review Online
I'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture that he needs.
I was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people thanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written and maybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things for him and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything besides show up.
.
On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....
Quite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his birthday and throw a big thing for him?
I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor.
I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.
Adam
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brunians at brunians.org wrote:
brunians at brunians.org wrote:
Wolfe: "I think he mellowed a little too much at the end?
He wasn't as sharp-edged as he really should have been. Perhaps the same thing will happen to me.
The man is in his 80s.
Next year he is 80.
Most sources I can locate list his birthday as May 7, 1931.
Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....
Quite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his birthday and throw a big thing for him?
I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor.
Oh, I m sure we would all be on our best behavior. If you don't feel that you can control yourself, by all means, stay away.
I've done this kind of thing before, it can work out well.
It's not me I'm worried about, but I can all too easily envision some heated discussions and spilled drinks leading to an exchange of assaults, both real and imagined.
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:23 PM, <brunians at brunians.org> wrote: Wolfe: "I think he mellowed a little too much at the end? He wasn't as sharp-edged as he really should have been. Perhaps the same thing will happen to me.
The man is in his 80s.
Next year he is 80.
Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....
Quite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his birthday and throw a big thing for him?
.
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7 May, right?
So this year he will be 78, in 2010 he will be 79, in 2011 he will be 80.
Do you think we'd get permission to throw this here shindig? The timing is excellent.
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I checked with the Source. Gene is 77.
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:23 PM, <brunians at brunians.org> wrote:
Wolfe: "I think he mellowed a little too much at the end
He wasn't as sharp-edged as he really should have been. Perhaps the same thing will happen to me.
The man is in his 80s.
Next year he is 80.
Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....
Quite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his birthday and throw a big thing for him?
.
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On Mar 31, 2009, at 11:37 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
It's not me I'm worried about, but I can all too easily envision some heated discussions and spilled drinks leading to an exchange of assaults, both real and imagined.
Guaranteed these discussions wouldn't get so pitched in real life face to face. Faceless internet communication makes it much harder to recognize a joke, or when you've gone too far, or...
Sometimes I will meet people who know me from online, and occasionally they will try to get me to talk about some of the more controversial stuff that I do talk about. It is very easy to not do so, and even to tell them why I am not doing so.
If they really insist, I find that the best thing to do is to say: "You know what? You are absolutely right!", change the subject and do not go back to the old subject whatever the temptation.
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On Mar 31, 2009, at 11:37 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
It's not me I'm worried about, but I can all too easily envision some heated discussions and spilled drinks leading to an exchange of assaults, both real and imagined.
Guaranteed these discussions wouldn't get so pitched in real life face to face. Faceless internet communication makes it much harder to recognize a joke, or when you've gone too far, or...
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Son of Witz wrote:
On Mar 31, 2009, at 11:37 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
It's not me I'm worried about, but I can all too easily envision some heated discussions and spilled drinks leading to an exchange of assaults, both real and imagined.
Guaranteed these discussions wouldn't get so pitched in real life face to face. Faceless internet communication makes it much harder to recognize a joke, or when you've gone too far, or...
God bless you for your faith in our fellows, Witz, but I've been to too many meet-ups where people started showing their ass to have your confidence.
I believe it is like the same-birthday exercise; any one person has less than a 1% chance of sharing a birthday with any other random person, but in a group of twenty the odds are better than 40%.
Really, this doesn't come up with me.
I must be getting old.
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Son of Witz wrote:
On Mar 31, 2009, at 11:37 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
It's not me I'm worried about, but I can all too easily envision some heated discussions and spilled drinks leading to an exchange of assaults, both real and imagined.
Guaranteed these discussions wouldn't get so pitched in real life face to face. Faceless internet communication makes it much harder to recognize a joke, or when you've gone too far, or...
God bless you for your faith in our fellows, Witz, but I've been to too many meet-ups where people started showing their ass to have your confidence.
I believe it is like the same-birthday exercise; any one person has less than a 1% chance of sharing a birthday with any other random person, but in a group of twenty the odds are better than 40%.
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Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com
< http://www.io.com/~jwilson >
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If people are serious about this and genuinely mean for it to be a tribute to Gene and not simply a "groupie fest", the smart thing to do might be to talk to his daughter Teri, who lives closest of all his kids.
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On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Jeff Wilson <jwilson at io.com> wrote: brunians at brunians.org wrote:
Really, this doesn't come up with me.
I must be getting old.
It's not you I'm particularly worried about, either. But suppose Harlan Ellison shows up?
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Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com
< http://www.io.com/~jwilson <http://www.io.com/%7Ejwilson> >
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I got a bottle of ether and some ketamine darts....
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brunians at brunians.org wrote:
Really, this doesn't come up with me.
I must be getting old.
It's not you I'm particularly worried about, either. But suppose Harlan Ellison shows up?
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Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com
< http://www.io.com/~jwilson >
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I am completely serious about this, and I will go to great lengths to ensure that it is in fact a tribute to Gene and not a groupie fest, and I would be incredibly happy to talk to Teri if only I knew how to get in touch with her!
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If people are serious about this and genuinely mean for it to be a tribute to Gene and not simply a "groupie fest", the smart thing to do might be to talk to his daughter Teri, who lives closest of all his kids.
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Jeff Wilson <jwilson at io.com> wrote:
brunians at brunians.org wrote:
Really, this doesn't come up with me.
I must be getting old.
It's not you I'm particularly worried about, either. But suppose Harlan Ellison shows up?
--
Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com
< http://www.io.com/~jwilson <http://www.io.com/%7Ejwilson> >
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If people are serious about this and genuinely mean
for it to be a tribute to Gene and not simply a "groupie fest", the smart thing to do might be to talk to his daughter Teri, who lives closest of all his kids.
I don't disagree about any of this, but how would a "groupie fest" not be a tribute to Gene? If people showed up dressed a Severian or Horn or Typhon, could that be anything but a tribute? Gene has been going to conventions since the early seventies (at least), I'd be surprised if he did not appreciate a convention thrown in honor of his works. He'll probably have a "real" birthday party with family and friends. Anything organized from this list is likely to be indistinguishable from a festival of fans.
Just trying to establish realistic expectations.
J.
I was under the impression that Teri was affiliated with Urth.net, and contributed from time to time. If you can't get her email address that way, I could check with her and see if it's ok to pass on her address to you....
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On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 2:17 PM, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote: If people are serious about this and genuinely mean for it to be a tribute to Gene and not simply a "groupie fest", the smart thing to do might be to talk to his daughter Teri, who lives closest of all his kids.
I don't disagree about any of this, but how would a "groupie fest" not be a tribute to Gene? If people showed up dressed a Severian or Horn or Typhon, could that be anything but a tribute? Gene has been going to conventions since the early seventies (at least), I'd be surprised if he did not appreciate a convention thrown in honor of his works. He'll probably have a "real" birthday party with family and friends. Anything organized from this list is likely to be indistinguishable from a festival of fans.
Just trying to establish realistic expectations.
J.
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I imagine that if this is going to be real, at some point we will discover his likes and dislikes in these matters, which we will then conform to.
I remember from his writings that he doesn't want to be sent out after ice. That should be fairly easy....
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If people are serious about this and genuinely mean
for it to be a tribute to Gene and not simply a "groupie fest", the smart thing to do might be to talk to his daughter Teri, who lives closest of all his kids.
I don't disagree about any of this, but how would a "groupie fest" not be a tribute to Gene? If people showed up dressed a Severian or Horn or Typhon, could that be anything but a tribute? Gene has been going to conventions since the early seventies (at least), I'd be surprised if he did not appreciate a convention thrown in honor of his works. He'll probably have a "real" birthday party with family and friends. Anything organized from this list is likely to be indistinguishable from a festival of fans.
Just trying to establish realistic expectations.
J.
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You know....the more I think about it, if this were called a Gene Wolfe Convention and were organized as such with all the events and forums and hoopla one expects from such things, and if it were held in the Chicago area, Gene would go. Also, it would probably attract more admirers on this list, and an impressive assortment of Named Authors as well. You should get in touch with the Windy Con people since they already have experience with such things.
If one wants merely to sit down at a meal with Gene and Rosemary, my recent experience was that he is an especially accessible person. If you contacted Teri and set a date, you could buy a plane ticket to Chicago and have the opportunity to take the Wolfe's to dinner yourself. Invite Teri along, because she's a real hoot.
J.
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